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Old 03-25-2013, 08:31 AM
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I'm annoyed with rescues who don't think people should ask where their money goes to or why they can't get a tax receipt and tell them to mind their own business.

If someone wants to give money it IS their business to know where it goes. All rescues or charities get asked those things all the time! Ugh!


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Old 03-25-2013, 08:46 AM
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I got woken up at 7.30 and then again at 9 this morning. WTH people... it's my last day of being a lazy unemployed mooch. At least give me til 1 or something! lol
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Old 03-25-2013, 08:55 AM
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There is at least 3" of snow outside. It is still coming down. It is March 25th. That is unquestionably spring. GET WARM, YOU STUPID WEATHER.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:14 AM
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I'm just in the worse mood ever. Found out I gained 10 pounds, felt like hitting my head against a brick wall repeatedly. 2013 has not been a good year so far.

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Old 03-25-2013, 10:01 AM
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Woke up, the city hadn't plowed our street as expected. Got ready for work, packed my lunch, was about to walk outside and help my dad finish clearing the drive and digging out cars when my co-worker called. He said if they hadn't even plowed our street I should definitely stay put, and he wasn't even sure if he was going to make it to work himself.


We just finished digging out our cars and it's 10am, I'm supposed to be at work at 9am, so it's a good thing.

Now to go do grandma's house... then the apartment building if we can make it over there...

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Old 03-25-2013, 11:19 AM
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Rumor is driving me crazy. Pace pace whine whine. She wants to go outside in the snow but it's still falling, and precipitation melts Dobermans.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dogdragoness View Post
I don't think it matters, a great dog is still a great dog regardless if she was from a BYB or not.

I don't think it is as black & white as that , I think there are good BYBs & BAD BYBs
It does matter. You quoted and said you can get a dog from a good breeder for $100... but... you were talking about your previous dog, who, from all you have said about her breeder, didn't come from a good one. Not saying there's anything wrong with her, just that that sort of breeder is not the responsible type that the OP of the topic is looking for.

Originally Posted by sillysally View Post
Isn't it pretty common for working breeders not to do extensive health testing?
Not to do extensive health testing, yes. And I don't completely agree with that anyway (see the post from crazedACDs "get out of jail free card") but this breeder didn't do ANY health testing. If they aren't making sure the dogs they're breeding are healthy, I can't assume they actually paid for a real hearing test, even. And at that, I don't think it's responsible to breed them no matter how well they may work if they may be ridden with genetic issues.

Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel View Post
This is a rather unrealistic and limiting take, imo.

Health testing is vast and debatable from breed to breed to line to line.

I would never expect a whippet breeder to OFA the hips. I would also not expect a malinois breeder to BAER. Additionally, while elbows are nice they're not mandatory in every breed, nor are knees, nor hips. More often than not I would pick a non-OFA dog with a stellar breeding than I would be scared off for lack there of.

I'm not sure anyone on here is capable of calling someone elses breeder irresponsible or "BYB" on limited information.
The poster has shared MORE than enough info to steer almost anyone here away from their breeder, I think that is a fair idea to grasp. They don't health test, and don't do anything except work. I don't consider that a well bred dog, personally, and most here wouldn't either. I don't expect everything under the sun to be covered, but I would expect the basics to be covered to be considered even halfway responsible.
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:52 PM
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I'm confused because she did health test, for hearing, no?
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:08 PM
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I'm exhausted. 2 1/2 weeks of no sleep/the little sleep I did get being filled with nightmares, the accusations, everything. It's just exhausting.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel View Post
I'm confused because she did health test, for hearing, no?
The way it was worded made it sound like they checked to see if the dogs were deaf, not actually had a vet test them. Which is why I made the comment about that earlier. I don't see a farmer who won't make sure the dogs are healthy doing more than calling the dog to see if it can hear. BUT I will be corrected if wrong. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, it just doesn't seem like that happened.
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