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Old 06-02-2014, 02:27 AM
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I kind of hope she does, and then gets denied.

But I'm terrible, so.
I giggled. Can I join Club Terrible? (That should be your new user-description.)

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Old 06-02-2014, 02:57 AM
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I've said it before and I will say it again... never have I seen a 'tent city in a developed country other than in the states.

I don't think your welfare helps enough to be honest! Our taxes are RIDICULOUS. They're also cutting welfare left right and centre. And the rich are getting richer because of it. And the poor are living hand to mouth and suffering. There aren't enough jobs. There's multi generational unemployment and poverty. Its getting worse, and they're giving out less.

What saddens me is what we value as a successful society. Is wealth success??? Personally I'd rather see my government value health, homes and happiness as what is important. Looking after the people will generate money as a happy healthy stable workforce is going to do a lot more for you than one with major social problems.
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:32 AM
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I am all for the premise of welfare, but I think that both Canada and the USA have a lot of revisions to do before it's as effective as it could be.

Many people DO turn to "under the table activities" because they are simply not getting enough money.
Can you live off $400/month? The cheapest apartment I've found in the dirtiest area of my city wasn't even that cheap. Add on utilities, FOOD, and ya know every other daily need?

My autistic brother is on disability. He works 6 hours per week because that's all his employer will give him, and gets some extra from the government. He is not allowed to have over $5000 in his account at one time. If he does, they will cut off his support and it will be a lengthy ordeal to get it back.


Bottom line, yes there are people who abuse it - very easy to see in the area I used to live in. But far more people have it because they need it. And I don't want to live in a place where if something tragic happened to me that I wouldn't be able to help I needed.





Also, staying at my parents for a few days for the 5k yesterday and an exam tomorrow. Woke up in ridiculous pain from the run yesterday and found this morning that this is allergy central. My throat is swollen and itchy and I can't stop sneezing.
I never thought I'd say it...but I want to go back to my treeless industrial park *sobs*
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:06 AM
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I dunno, I can see the frustration with how much money is taken out of paychecks. I know I get frustrated sometimes. I am in no way rich at all. And there's things I need that I can't afford. It'd be easier to afford if the government didn't take out so **** much.

I don't know a fix for it though. Feeding people is one of the best ways to spend extra money, imo. I donate to the food pantry here all the time as well as volunteer because they are very efficient. I don't really feel like government programs are very efficient.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:47 AM
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I dunno, I can see the frustration with how much money is taken out of paychecks. I know I get frustrated sometimes. I am in no way rich at all. And there's things I need that I can't afford. It'd be easier to afford if the government didn't take out so **** much.
I would much rather see them slash the defense budget than welfare or schools, personally. And I say that as someone on a DoD contract who would likely be directly impacted. There is so much waste around here, it's insane.

I actually came in here to complain about how bad my face/head hurts. Stupid dog. Stupid jumping into arms trick.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:06 AM
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No I also do not think that I should have to pay a school tax since I don't have kids, why should I pay for something I don't use? And universal health care is fine, what is not fine is the government saying "buy it or we'll fine the crap out of you on your taxes." Them FORD ING people to buy something is not IMO constitutional.

Your state aid may be great but mine is horribly abused, people have all these kids and are eligible for state aid, then they keep having more kids that I have to pay for, common sense would tell me if I can't afford the ones I have than maybe I should be careful not to have more :/.
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY. That's really all I have to say. It's pretty lame to throw all people receiving assistance into one big pot. Are there people who abuse it? Sure. But the majority doesn't. Is the system perfect the way it is? No. I wish there was more to be done to actually HELP people get back on their feet instead of keeping them in place. I also wish the focus was more on rehabilitation with prisoners than locking them up longterm.

I am saying that I wish bad things on you, I do not, but it shouldn't surprise you that there's a lack of compassion for you when all you care about is ME ME ME.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:13 AM
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I would much rather see them slash the defense budget than welfare or schools, personally. And I say that as someone on a DoD contract who would likely be directly impacted. There is so much waste around here, it's insane.

I actually came in here to complain about how bad my face/head hurts. Stupid dog. Stupid jumping into arms trick.
Well for sure there's a lot I'd like to see cut before welfare. I just get... frustrated and disillusioned some. I look at house prices just 10 years ago and inflation and it sucks. It was much easier back when my parents were starting out or even 10 years ago. Now trying to be independent on one salary is a lot harder.

I really don't know how most people in the US stay afloat. I have a decent salary and live in a low cost area and it's still a struggle.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:20 AM
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I didn't mean to infer that you want to slash welfare, sorry! I was trying to make a statement off of yours, not counter to it. I clearly haven't had enough coffee to brain posts properly.

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Well for sure there's a lot I'd like to see cut before welfare. I just get... frustrated and disillusioned some. I look at house prices just 10 years ago and inflation and it sucks. It was much easier back when my parents were starting out or even 10 years ago. Now trying to be independent on one salary is a lot harder.

I really don't know how most people in the US stay afloat. I have a decent salary and live in a low cost area and it's still a struggle.
I don't understand how people afford things. General people, making general monies, buying general things. The housing market is jacked, the economy is weird, and the income disparity is just...bad. So much needs to be fixed.
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Above all, I forgot my very own first world vent:

MODCLOTH! Why do you keep teasing me with a tunic I want to order! Every day I check it still says "coming soon." Have it NOW for me, plz.

Also, there should be a special place in hell for people who leave a copier jammed for the next person to un-jam it.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:27 AM
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I used To be a die hard democrat and had no problem with assistance but not anymore.

It is horribly abused. When I say literally almost every pt we see is on a drug I am not exaggerating. States That did any drug testing did it selectively or they would have had a lot of positives. They do not want the general public. To know how bad it is.

I have a friend on care source while my Insurance cost hundreds a check and I've paid thousands in deductibles this year(used to have a nice plan,that changed). Guess who has a new car? Its not me! They go on vacations,cedar point every weekend. When is the last time i had a vacation? I take off fair weekend and still have to be careful with money.She gets formula and give it away or sells. I know solo many that sell and trade food stamps.

It all really frustrates me to see. There are people that really need the help and they are the ones often not getting enough!! The entire system needs redone. And people do get rewarded for having more Kids right now. How is that right? When we have large groups of people reproducing for money instead of working we have an issue.

And there will always be those not accepting help. Our issue here is no long term mental health care. We have shelters and programs but the people who are truly Ill will not go. That's part of our communities tent city. Other part are the ones that are doing drugs and etoh and are kicked out of shelter or spend their housing money on it. We have no where to put those who are truly Ill and will not accept help. Its so backwards and disgusting.
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