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Old 08-02-2012, 10:35 AM
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Default Adult vs. puppy, big vs. small

How do you decide?!?!

I pretty much am debating between like four breeds at this point (two small, two medium-ish) but I won't be adding another for at least another year.

I'm not sure adding a larger dog (40lbs+) would be best for me at this point in my life even though I really want to have something a tad bigger (but preferably not over 50 or so pounds). I admit, I do really like the portability of Jackson, he's welcome in a lot more places (and peoples houses I visit, etc) , easy to lift up out of trouble if need be, everything in general is cheaper (food, collars, medicine, etc), not as much hair, everything is just less messy in general, etc, etc.

For those that went from small dog to big dog, or big dog to small dog, how do you decide?

Also... puppy vs. adult. That's another that I can't decide. In one way, I really really enjoy raising a dog from puppyhood, being able to sort of shape them into what I want. I also just enjoy young puppies and teaching them. But then again, in some cases, it doesn't matter what you do with a dog as a pup, they still could have an issue. With an adult dog, normally what you see is what you get. Their personality is already set in stone for the most part and you know of any potential personality quirks they may have.

Just random, but what has your experiences been?
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:43 AM
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I prefer pups to mesh in my pack but if the right adult came along Id be thrilled, puppies are exhausting.

I prefer "medium" dogs, it's just that easy. I will however add a smaller dog someday.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:44 AM
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Well I've done all the above with my current crew...depending on how you define big & small. I consider Webster at 20lbs to be small, and Kim & Mira at 24" jump heights (even if Mira is the shortest dog in her class and borderline) and 50lbs (+/-) to be big, for my purposes anyway.

In my case it was always just finding the right individual. Webby was a young adult and was sort of on trial at first which I think is important so you have a chance to see if they mesh with the dog(s) you already have. I was supposed to get my Canaan puppy but Web came up and needed an out...and turned out to be the right guy for the job. Lucky. Both of us.

It's just really difficult for me to generalize on this. My experiences are very specific to my situations.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:52 AM
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I like puppies. As much work as they are, you can mold them into whatever you want a lot of the time. And if you get an older dog sometimes they come with aggression etc that is harder to train out.

I like large dogs simply because I've grown up with them. Crystal is actually the smallest out of all of my previous dogs at 35 pounds. In fact all of my other dogs have been 65+ lbs. I just love big dogs. But if for some reason I had to move to an apartment with restrictions, and I had a large dog, I could see how hard that would be. So I am no help there. I just grew up with bigger dogs.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:55 AM
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I pefer adding a puppy. We added Mitsu when she was 4 months old and I wish she was younger than that when I rescue her. But if the right adult came along and the dog meshed well with my dogs than I would gladly add the dog.

I was planning on adding a giant dog into my home before we decided to keep Mitsu, but reality has hit and with us travling a lot and just the sheer size of the dog and having a 60lb puppy and a small dog its just not realistic traveling with that size of dog plus my other two, so i've decided to look at smaller-ish breeds just in case the option comes up for us to take in another dog.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:58 AM
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I'm a big believer in genetics so I do think for the most part the nerves and stability of the dog is set but you can do things to tweak. That being said, my main reason for wanting puppies (from breeders) is I really really enjoy teaching them to learn. I love how you can take a puppy and really really let them figure things out in their major sponge stage. Not that you can't do that with an adult, just that I tend to like it more so with a puppy.

But if I was going to a shelter I would 100% go with an adult because I don't want to get a nervy, no drive Kaylee dog again. I want to know exactly what I'm getting into if I know none of the history behind the dog or it's ancestors.

Puppies are a pain more times than not. But it's so fun watching them grow and molding them and letting them discover the world. The best part is watching them start to really come into themselves. Little puppies are cute and puppyish but when they start getting legs and the ability to keep up it just becomes so much fun.

I debated bringing in an adult Koolie instead of a puppy for awhile. Still on the maybe board. But I decided if I was going to be spending the money on importing I would bring in a dog that I could enjoy all stages from the cute, rolly puppy part to the shark mouth, getting into everything stage.

Not sure if this post was helpful at all though.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:17 AM
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I don't see the appeal of puppies at all, I really don't lol. Genetics play a huge role, our "moldable puppy" became dog reactive and human aggressive, was scared of strangers from day one, no amount of molding was going to undo it. I enjoy training adults so much better because they actually pay attention and have some self control. I like that they can lay on the couch while I'm on the computer, not go destroy something or pee on the floor because I took my eyes off of them for five seconds. I don't bleed everyday anymore. When I think of how short of a time he actually was a puppy I'm shocked by how long it felt. I mean his biting was very much curbed by four months of age, it felt like a decade.


Some people are just not puppy people, you need to find out if you are.

And yes, if you get a puppy from a great breeder you should have a better genetic slate to start from than we did.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:26 AM
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I'm a big believer in genetics so I do think for the most part the nerves and stability of the dog is set but you can do things to tweak. That being said, my main reason for wanting puppies (from breeders) is I really really enjoy teaching them to learn. I love how you can take a puppy and really really let them figure things out in their major sponge stage. Not that you can't do that with an adult, just that I tend to like it more so with a puppy.

But if I was going to a shelter I would 100% go with an adult because I don't want to get a nervy, no drive Kaylee dog again. I want to know exactly what I'm getting into if I know none of the history behind the dog or it's ancestors.

Puppies are a pain more times than not. But it's so fun watching them grow and molding them and letting them discover the world. The best part is watching them start to really come into themselves. Little puppies are cute and puppyish but when they start getting legs and the ability to keep up it just becomes so much fun.

I debated bringing in an adult Koolie instead of a puppy for awhile. Still on the maybe board. But I decided if I was going to be spending the money on importing I would bring in a dog that I could enjoy all stages from the cute, rolly puppy part to the shark mouth, getting into everything stage.

Not sure if this post was helpful at all though.
I think this is kind of my train of thought right now and why I want to go through a breeder next time around. I want to know what the parents were like, and the ones before them, and be able to see the siblings possibly, etc.

I feel like getting puppies from a rescue is SUCH a crapshoot that it's something I wouldn't really want to risk.

I have kind of specific needs and wants for my next dog, so either an adult who is in a foster home or a puppy from a breeder is going to be my next move. I'm sure of that. Just can't decide on size or age, Lol.
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:29 AM
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I like medium to large dogs, ideally 40+ pounds but still under 90 pounds. I do want a Great Dane someday, but not yet.

I wanted a puppy. Then I got Gavroche as an adult, and it was fantastic! Now I'd be happy to never have to raise a puppy again. Adult dogs are so much easier from the start.

Logan was a bit of a different situation. I needed a larger dog, specifically a taller one, to be a working dog. I also wanted a young adult so I wouldn't have to wait FOREVERRRRRRR to start really training him. His breeder did a fantastic job socializing him and with his foundation training.

If I were to just get a pet, I'd probably go to a shelter and find the dog that I seemed to click with, and was an adult. When Gavroche came into the clinic I loved him instantly, and he's exactly what I needed at the time. He was my heart dog right away, and I was so disappointed that I couldn't have him - except then all of a sudden I could


I wanted to keep Tango. I really, really did. At first. The longer I had him the more I realized I'm just NOT ready for a small dog at this point. I do want one, some day, but not any time soon. I'll get my small dog fixes through intermittent fostering until then
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:40 AM
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I prefer older puppies and young adults. Definitely medium to large sized. I am just not at all a small dog person and that was very heavily reinforced as truth during my fostering Spaz as I had never lived with a small dog myself before that.
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