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Old 09-10-2012, 05:22 PM
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:04 PM
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Uh oh, you guys asked for it!!! (I have about a million photos of him, and he's only 6 months old...). Should I start a thread for them in the photo section? (sorry very new here)
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:17 PM
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...I posted a thread with lots of pics on him in the photos section! Also one for my other baby, Jasper, who's a Rough Collie
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:21 PM
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Okay I have a question. I know a lot of the other 'wolf without a wolf' breeds have had scandals or people sneak actual wolves in. The ANCDs I've seen have a few characteristics of actual wolfdogs imo. It really makes me curious and albeit a bit skeptical of the claim that there is no wolf in the breed.
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Old 09-10-2012, 06:51 PM
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Okay I have a question. I know a lot of the other 'wolf without a wolf' breeds have had scandals or people sneak actual wolves in. The ANCDs I've seen have a few characteristics of actual wolfdogs imo. It really makes me curious and albeit a bit skeptical of the claim that there is no wolf in the breed.
Yes, there do seem to be constant scandals within the wolf look-a-like breeds! I don't really like to get involved with the drama, I chose the ANCD because I like the look, the temperament, and the fact that they are very trainable and can be worked. They fit my criteria, and I'm very happy with my boy. I know that there are people who are skeptical of the no wolf claim, but from my experience Yarrow is no wolfdog He is quite an easy pup in most ways, and a joy to live with.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:17 PM
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Was there any record keeping done? I really think a lot of the dogs I'm seeing in pictures look like low content wolfdogs. The stance, build, lack of a prominent stop, etc. I haven't seen a domestic dog breed with some of the features they seem to have. Even Saarloos and Czechs dont' look as wolfy and they do have some wolf in them. I'm just really curious, lol.

Anyways your dog is beautiful!
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:01 PM
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But is there any proof of that? Pretty much every 'wolf look alike' breed that claims 'wolf without the wolf' doesn't seem to be the whole truth. Tamaskans for example...

ETA: There was a post above this that got deleted. I promise I wasn't talking to myself when I posted it...
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:17 PM
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I actually agree with Lyzelle a hundred times over on all of her posts in this thread. You can find dogs that fill that appearance niche in shelters and rescues EVERYWHERE.

What do I hear most from strangers in relation to my dogs? "Look mommy, wolves!!!"

How did I end with a second one? Oh thats right, my best friend's mom wanted a pretty, super cool dog just like Lily... And I do consider Scout pretty lazy by my standards. She requires a lot less mental and physical workout to be happy each day than Lily does. Lily starts chasing her tail if she's not worked hard enough every day, which isn't often.

I have no problem with purpose bred working mixes, but this? I can never agree to this. I don't care much for all the minaturized breeds either, despite fostering and loving Spaz the mini Aussie I still don't agree with minaturizing the breed. And even the creator of the labradoodle said he regretted doing it later...

Point is, breeds were all created for purposes and I think that when you no longer breed for purpose, you take away most/all of the qualities that gave those breeds balance, clear charachterists, etc. to begin with. If you say oh whatever its just a pet, we don't need the whole package of functional structure/health/drive/temperament and looks lastly then IMO you are left with a dog thats not nearly as good quality overall and the breed will eventually (or quickly even) go downhill because of it. Breeding for looks is the number one best way to ruin a breed of dogs and is IMO a **** poor basis on which to solely create a breed.

I also do not care at all for showline versions of the working dogs I love. That Sibe I keep seeing on campus is beautiful, but he is such a sad shell of what a Sibe should be... That love and drive for running and the cracked out prey drive is such a part of them is totally missing from him and its just incredibly depressing (though probably good for his safety given his **** poor owner always has him off leash... though remember Sibe rule number one, he probably will up and run someday... ) to see that shell of a dog all for the sake of having a pretty ornament at your side. Just not okay man!

Compared to my crazy girl woo-ing at me and having spastic husky zoomies around the house this morning LOL.

The falsification regarding the Seppala lines here in the US is really interesting. Especially the ones that claim to be, but are obviously out of some other well known lines from how they are built/look.

I'm sure this lady has fantabulous intentions, but you know what they say about the road to hell...
Excellent post. I completely agree. Don't we have enough shelter dogs that we don't need to create any new companion breeds? Why do people care about looks so much?
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:22 PM
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Excellent post. I completely agree. Don't we have enough shelter dogs that we don't need to create any new companion breeds? Why do people care about looks so much?
Because people have different tastes? Because people have different temperaments they like living with?

With one of the biggest reasons for people dumping dogs at shelters being "he grew bigger than we expected/ is too vocal / is too active / etc." why are people who claim to want to see dogs stay in forever homes so opposed to the creation of a variety of healthy temperament tested companion breeds with specific size and behavior parameters?
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:55 PM
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Just fyi I asked a wolfdog owner/expert I know about them and got some interesting info. It seems like they do have wolf added recently.
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