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Old 07-11-2012, 11:12 PM
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We've been feeding Canidae Pure Sky grain free, but they use Diamond's plants so we've moved away from that brand. We just switched to Evo red meat. On the package it says that it's formulated for all life stages but they recommend feeding a different food to large breed puppies.

I'm curious if I need to worry about feeding Murray, our 3 mos old lab/shepard mix puppy, this food. It's protein is 42%, is this too much for a growing puppy? Would this make him grow too fast harming his joints?

If this isn't a good food, what would you recommend that's a grain and chicken free alternative for him. I've been looking at the different foods and I'm finding that I'm a little confused on the protein aspect of this for a young puppy.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:49 AM
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It's not the protein you worry about, it's the calcium to phosphorus ratio which I understand is "off" in many of the high protein foods. I don't remember what it's supposed to be though, it's around 1:1 but not exactly. Not sure of brands that fit this mold I'm afraid, I'll try looking around to see what I can find.
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Hah! I actually dealt with this EXACT situation on Monday (large breed puppy, allergic to chicken and preference to no grain), and I ended up calling quite a few companies to get their calcium phos ratios.

Top pic was Pure Vita GF Bison.
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I got this off of another dog forum from a nutritionist:

Giant breed puppies under 18 months should not be fed Evo.

Large breed puppies under 12 months should not be fed Evo.

Regular adult Innova is fine for either group from weaning on.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:21 AM
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Hah! I actually dealt with this EXACT situation on Monday (large breed puppy, allergic to chicken and preference to no grain), and I ended up calling quite a few companies to get their calcium phos ratios.

Top pic was Pure Vita GF Bison.
Oooh, I'll check out that food. I like the bison.

We'll def not feed him Evo.

Thanks for helping. Any other food ideas are welcome too.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:36 AM
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Oooh, I'll check out that food. I like the bison.

We'll def not feed him Evo.

Thanks for helping. Any other food ideas are welcome too.
If you plan on rotating, I would steer clear of the Pure Vita GF Salmon as the numbers were off, and you'd have to call about the Turkey, I didn't even think to ask because they wanted to stay away from poultry.
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If you plan on rotating, I would steer clear of the Pure Vita GF Salmon as the numbers were off, and you'd have to call about the Turkey, I didn't even think to ask because they wanted to stay away from poultry.
We weren't planning on rotating. He was on Purina Puppy Chow, gag, and wanted to get him off that ASAP. I really like how well my 3 grown dogs did on grain free and want to start the puppy on good food.

What kind of numbers should I be looking for in a food for him? I was also looking at the Earthborn grain free bison formula would that be a food I could consider for him?
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We weren't planning on rotating. He was on Purina Puppy Chow, gag, and wanted to get him off that ASAP. I really like how well my 3 grown dogs did on grain free and want to start the puppy on good food.

What kind of numbers should I be looking for in a food for him? I was also looking at the Earthborn grain free bison formula would that be a food I could consider for him?
I have to go to work now but just at a glance Earthborn looks like it would be fine, particularly the Meadow Feast one. Prim Natural's doesn't list Cal/Phos so not sure on that one. Great Plains Feast is on the high end for Cal, but should be fine if it's part of a rotation. Coastal Catch seems fine, but my pick if you just want one in that line would be Meadow Feast.
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What kind of numbers should I be looking for in cal/phos? Can I go off puppy foods and use those numbers as a ball park range?

Thanks for the help on foods.
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