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Old 07-01-2012, 04:03 AM
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Well Nature's Variety is the only one I can get locally. But, Nog does great on it. He puts fantastic muscle on when he eats it, which is great, as he runs on the scrawny side,lol. For the past month he's been back on kibble and it's really shown. He's back on NV as of today.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:21 AM
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Honestly I don't buy the "no kibble and raw at the same time" thing as an across-the-board rule although I've read it in multiple places. The "digests at different rates" thing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.

I feed them together at the same meal, and that's how many, many mushers feed their dogs, and I haven't personally seen problems or heard about problems from the mushers I know. YMMV. *shrug*
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:40 AM
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I've fed NV, Primal, Bravo, Vital Essentials, and Woody's.

My cats like, and do well on the Primal vs the NV. The dogs seem to do fine on any of the above but getting a ground duck with no other ingredients leaves me with Woody's and that's ok. Buzz occasionally eats Primal duck as well, but it has so much extra "stuff" that I don't like paying for!

I never used to, but I certainly do feed raw and kibble in the same meal currently. I've seen no digestive issues because of it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:52 AM
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We use S&C for training treats. Otherwise all raw I feed is in chunk form.

I do feed kibble and raw together once in a while and my dogs seem fine but I try to avoid it.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:07 AM
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I've fed Nature's Variety, Stella & Chewy's, Primal, and Bravo.

With the pre-divided ones (NV, S&C, Primal), every night I take out what they need for the next day. I normally feed raw for dinner, so I empty the container when I feed them dinner, wash it when I wash their bowls, and then put however many nuggets/patties in the container and put it in the fridge. One thing I found helped me remember to take more raw out is keeping the open bag of raw in the freezer above the fridge, instead of the freezer downstairs - out of sight, out of mind sort of thing.

With Bravo, I buy the chub. I'll do a cold-water thaw for a couple hours, and then take my turkey carver to the chub, and divide it into sections that will last two days. I then put each "section" into a seperate tupperware container, and it all goes in the freezer. Then, every night when I empty a container, I take another one out of the freezer and put it in the fridge.

ETA: Oh, and I've fed kibble and raw in the same meal for years. Never had any digestive issues.

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(Not because I don't like it, but I found out a local meat packer sells raw whole or grinds (meat/bone/organ) in bulk for a really affordable price, so I've been ordering from there.)
Really? In the Twin Cities? Would you mind PMing me their info? I've been looking for someone that does meat/bone/organ mixes for a while.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:25 AM
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My dogs like Nature's Variety raw the best! Duck is usually what I get when I get NV. If he gets picky about it, try adding warm water and mixing it up into mush, drizzling salmon oil on it, searing it for a few seconds in a pan, or mixing it with a spoonful of canned food.

I wouldn't leave kibble out for him. It REALLY can cause digestive upset. It actually does in my dogs and in every dog that I know of. It takes him longer to digest the kibble, so the raw will also be in his system for much longer, making him susceptible to bacteria. You can feed him one distinct kibble meal a day if you want to, before or after the raw is well through his system. Having kibble available to him at all times is probably what's making him picky. Freefed dogs tend to not be well suited to raw, because it shouldn't be sitting out all day.
Oh he's not free-fed currently. And he eats kibble really well and loves his Acana -- even just dry. He eats one meal dry and the other I mix with wet food.

I was just thinking with feeding the raw, it may be nice to have the kibble available to him to snack on if he desires.

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Honestly, now he knows that he can get away with refusing his food, so you'll likely have the same problem on every food.
No, he doesn't do it with any other food except Primal. And since it's only Primal, I'm not going to force him to eat something he truly doesn't like. He does still eat it, he won't flat out refuse it, but he eats it sooo slowly and kinda with a half-disgusted face, LOL. But I agree that usually it would cause a dog to get picky with anything... but in this case, he's a very good eater and hasn't snubbed food in a while (he used to be really picky when he was younger). So I'm just looking for something he may find more enjoyable.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:29 AM
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Honestly I don't buy the "no kibble and raw at the same time" thing as an across-the-board rule although I've read it in multiple places. The "digests at different rates" thing makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me.

I feed them together at the same meal, and that's how many, many mushers feed their dogs, and I haven't personally seen problems or heard about problems from the mushers I know. YMMV. *shrug*
This is how I had it explained to me (as to why it's fine to feed at the same time or day):

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The stomach can digest both raw and non-raw food at the same time. The stomach doesn't categorize things according to it's raw status; the stomach recognizes whether the substance is a carb, a protein, a fat, a toxin - and then processes and churns accordingly....moving the substances into the small intestine as they're ready.

An analogy for humans would be sushi...it's raw, and it's non-raw...and our tummy handles it as it handles other carbs, proteins, fats - in whatever form they arrive into the tummy.

Even if 2 foods have differing digestion times (whether they're raw or not), the stomach doesn't delay all digestion based upon the slowest food. It releases its enzymes that correlate with the specific food type, and food moves into the small intestine as it's ready to proceed in the process. Digestion doesn't get 'blocked' by one food that is slower, and then the slower food causes some sort of bacteria crisis. If that were the case, we'd sure have a lot of sick people and animals whenever they ate foods w/ differing digestion times, lol! Also, I'd think we see a totally different food pyramid that had to do w/ digestion times, rather than with types of foods.
Which does make sense to me.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:30 AM
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I think I'm going to go with NV!
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:47 AM
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This is how I had it explained to me (as to why it's fine to feed at the same time or day):
Yes, exactly! Do you mind if I ask where you got that quote from, because I'd love to have the reference on hand.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:48 AM
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Really? In the Twin Cities? Would you mind PMing me their info? I've been looking for someone that does meat/bone/organ mixes for a while.
Sure, incoming.
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