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Old 06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
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Default Toyota Matrix? Vibe? Chevy HHR?

I need to fit one 36" crate (regular or SUV), one 30" crate and one 24" crate. The SUV crate has no side doors but everything else does/can. Does anyone have these vehicles and know if these crates will fit? I'm leaning strongly towards the Matrix. I commute an hour and would like better gas mileage than our Element/Pilot. Thanks!
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:14 PM
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Leah reviewed her HHR for my Four Paw Drive vehicle blog (4pdrive.wordpress.com) and I have a few other vehicles up as well, though I haven't reviewed the Matrix or Vibe yet. I would be surprised if the Matrix or Vibe could handle all three crates tbh. The HHR miiight be able to handle them.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:23 PM
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Leah reviewed her HHR for my Four Paw Drive vehicle blog (4pdrive.wordpress.com) and I have a few other vehicles up as well, though I haven't reviewed the Matrix or Vibe yet. I would be surprised if the Matrix or Vibe could handle all three crates tbh. The HHR miiight be able to handle them.
I read all of the reviews It looked like the HHR would be the tightest. I read this review:http://www.cargodogs.com/2007/05/toy...big-on-the.htm and was thinking they might fit if these are both 36"...


I'm just so much more visual - I can't find photos of dog related stuff in cars very easily (besides your blog and this one!) and was hoping someone else would have a very gas friendly, small-ish vehicle that could fit my three dogs. I will eventually have to haul the crates to a dealership and try it but was hoping to avoid that until I had narrowed it down better. I just "heard" about the Matrix today so not sure if I am missing others. Never once considered the HHR until I saw your blog.
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Old 06-06-2012, 06:28 PM
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My friend has a Matrix and we easily fit two 36inch crates and a 24inch crate in there with plenty of room left for packing camping equipment for two people.
She took some pictures of our packing so I'll see if I can get them from her.
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Let's see, thinking this through "out loud"...

Most of the vehicles in the hatchback category *should* fit a 36" where the back seat is (36"x24"). Your tight point is going to be the slope of the rear hatch vs. where the wheel wells are (i.e. can your crates fit side by side and still not hit the slope of the hatch). A 30" crate should be 30x21 and a 24 is usually 18" wide, so you have to have wheel wells that are at *least* 37" wide and most small hatchbacks have 36-37" spacing between the wheel wells.

In my Impreza, I have 37" between the wheel wells and about 24" from the side of the 36" over the back seat area to the hatch at the 27" point that my second 36" crate hits the hatch at. I'm not sure if there would be an additional 6" just by dropping down 6" to the 21" height of the 30" crate.

That help at all?
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:18 PM
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Matrix and Vibe are the same car, just styled differently and one is badged Toyota and the other Pontiac... dunno if you know that or not. Same engine in both and I found it to be pretty underpowered so I stopped looking at them. Sparks/Puckstop had one and they loved it though IIRC.
I looked at the HHR because Leah loves hers so much and it is surprisingly tiny! Smaller than my Chevy Impala. More crate space but it's a smaaaall car. I'm not sure if you'll get better MPG out of them than an Element though. Both are 4 cyl 2.4L engines. The Vibe/Matrix carry a 1.8 (though I believe the last run of the Vibe came in a sport package that may have bumped up to a 2.4) so you'll get better MPG out of them but obviously you sacrifice power hence why I found the Vibe really underpowered...
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I don't know about fitting the crates but I have a Matrix and LOVE it! I drive it in all kinds of traffic and don't get the feeling that it is underpowered, but that's just me.
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ok here is the picture of the crates in the Matrix, we piled all our camping gear around and in front of the smallest crate(pictured closest to the camera)

I don't have a picture of it fully packed tho but it was awesome.

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Oh wow that's awesome! Are the 36" crates regular width (24") or SUV-style (21")?
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ok here is the picture of the crates in the Matrix, we piled all our camping gear around and in front of the smallest crate(pictured closest to the camera)

I don't have a picture of it fully packed tho but it was awesome.

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That pretty much made my night - thank you!!!!
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