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Old 06-08-2012, 02:18 AM
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Any thoughts? Anyone taken classes with them? I am thinking of taking two or maybe all three of the courses they offer, but mainly just the Certified Dog Trainer course. What do you guys think of this school and the way they teach and the trainers they produce? Will I really be a fully certified trainer after their course? I am talking to a counselor now, but it's been hard and back and forth since my house phone is a total biotch...lol. Thanks for any and all input.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:24 AM
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I used to work at a place they sent their students for training/teaching after they completed the online course. I was not impressed at all but not surprised either - it's about impossible to learn everything you need to know about dog training/behavior through a short internet course and a couple classes. IMO none of the students were prepared or ready to be trainers on their own after completing the course. I guess if you are already a trainer and want certification because it sounds good, ABC would be ok. But if you are hoping to learn all you need to know to start your own training business, this isn't going to give you that. If that is what you want to do, I'm afraid there is no short cut. You need to put in the time and train your own dog, go to different classes, go to seminars, read as much as you can, volunteer to work with shelter dogs to teach them some basics and volunteer to help with classes at a place you go to.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:58 AM
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My work let's ABC students sit in on classes to observe once in a while. I think only one of the ABC students I've met seemed to have it together. The rest of them tend to usually be terrible at reading dog body language and are just completely clueless in general and a few have been bitten or let a dog fight break out because "oh I thought they were happy because the tail was wagging!!!". Maybe I'm just meeting a few rotten eggs in the bunch but I'm not really a fan of the ABC program.

We have one ABC student in particular that my boss actually hired and he is repeatedly putting himself in situations where dogs give him whale eye and stiff body postures and yet he still tries to heavy pet them, hug them etc. He said that he can make any animal like him... I'm just waiting for him to end up bit since I've told him multiple times to stop and yet doesn't listen. I'm not saying that he is the example of all ABC students but its odd to me how the majority of the ABC students around here are like him.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:13 AM
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I've never found it to seem very impressive. IMO there are better accreditation services out there. CPDT is the one I would eventually like to go through, particularly because they require continuing education.
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:26 AM
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I've never found it to seem very impressive. IMO there are better accreditation services out there. CPDT is the one I would eventually like to go through, particularly because they require continuing education.
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Old 06-08-2012, 11:55 AM
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Yeah I went to one training place where we had two people from some school (I think ABC since the shirts looked similar) sit in. One was overall really pretty good. She seemed to be very smart and had a knack with dogs. The other person was an idiot with dogs. I can't even sugar coat it at all. She HAD to make all the dogs like her and would force herself on them. She'd chime in over the trainer with some really crap training advice. It was VERY frustrating for me to have to watch out for this student because she would do so many stupid things that would scare Mia and insist she knew what she was doing. the main trainer was constantly having to tell the girl to back off and be quiet.

I think skill with dogs is something you either have and can then build off of or it's something you just don't have. If I'm looking for a trainer, I want someone that has real world experience above all else.
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I contemplated doing it but my then mentor (an ABC mentor as well) told me she thought it would be a waste of my time. Unless you know nothing about dog behavior then it's not really worth it.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:10 PM
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Hey, I'm kind of new to this forum but wanted to give you my experience with ABC. I went through their program and found it very overpriced and that it did not come close to preparing me for being a successful trainer. Their materials were outdated and they didn't have the kind of support and guidance I wanted (with the exception of the mentor trainer, who was a friend of mine - but if you get stuck with a bad mentor you will be wasting your time and money).

After doing dog training for the last 5 years, having a tremendous amount of success in a short time and after receiving lots of request for it, I launched my own online dog trainer course earlier this year. Now, I'm of course very biased but I think my program has everything you need to turn your passion for dogs into a successful career. I just created everything I wish I had when I started out.

I don't want to go into a big self promotional rant here so I'll just say, check it out and see if it looks like it's a good fit for you. I would also be happy to talk to you to help you figure out what the best option is for you (whether it's my program or another). Just send me a message.

No matter what, I can tell you from personal experience that there is nothing better than doing a job you feel passionate about.
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:05 PM
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Yes, I definitely plan to be CPDT certified in the long run, but wanted to get some basic obedience education in. But, after doing some research and your guys advice...ABC might not be the best choice. I've been told that they base a lot of their training methods off of the old school "dominance" theory, and I just don't want to be taught on an outdated curb like that.

I do like that their course includes teaching you how to communicate with people about dog training, because that's definitely something I need help with, but yeah.

I just feel like I need further education than online searching and reading books. I also would LOVE a degree in Animal Behavior Science, but the only college that offers it near me is a way over priced university. Would that degree be a good idea to get online? And can you get tuition help with online schools?

I also had this school recommended to me, what do you guys think?
http://www.casinstitute.com/

Also, I didn't know CPDT required continuing education. How exactly do you continue your education?
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:38 PM
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http://www.ccpdt.org/index.php?optio...ist&Itemid=112

You continue your education by not stopping learning. => Various organizations require continuing education credits to stay accredited, and IMO it definitely adds weight to the CPDT accreditation that they recognize the importance of continuing to learn in this field.

What exactly are you looking for when you say "basic obedience education?"

If you attend an actual university, even online classes, you can potentially get financial aid, and certain other programs have tuition assistance (Karen Pryor Academy is one.)
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