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Old 12-07-2005, 03:36 PM
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She is only three and has that much grey? Wow
yeah, kind of weird huh! i am pretty sure she is 3.5 years old. her mask used to be jet black when she was younger.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:40 PM
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Actually, graying like that isn't that unusual for a pug. Ours is 3 1/2 and is like that.

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Old 12-07-2005, 03:46 PM
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Actually, graying like that isn't that unusual for a pug. Ours is 3 1/2 and is like that.
well thats definately good to know. i thought something might be wrong with her.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:46 PM
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that is so adorable!!
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:07 PM
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I would say that that much gray is defiantly abnormal for her age, but some dogs do gray early. Is your Mom 100% sure of her dogs age? If not, I would really refrain from breeding her. Most pugs really need to have their first litter as close to 2 years old as possible, they are quite different from other breeds. Plus, make sure that you Mom knows that there is a VERY likely chance that her pug will need a c-section, it is VERY common practice for the breed. A lot of them make really cruddy mothers as well and puppies need to be bottle fed every 2 hours around the clock.

In general, pugs need their hips looked at as the breed as a whole is very displastic, slipped hocks run ramped, eye certification and cardiac certification are also needed.

I should also say that your Mom's pug is a very sweet looking lady and I am sure that they love her. I will mention though, that she is far from standard for the breed. Breeding her will only add to the long list of pugs that are in rescue right now. I don't mean to sound rude, but pugs are so overbred now that it is silly. It's uncommon to find one in public that actually fits the standard.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:17 PM
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I should also say that your Mom's pug is a very sweet looking lady and I am sure that they love her. I will mention though, that she is far from standard for the breed. Breeding her will only add to the long list of pugs that are in rescue right now. I don't mean to sound rude, but pugs are so overbred now that it is silly. It's uncommon to find one in public that actually fits the standard.
wow, i had no idea. How is she so different from the standard? too many wrinkles? muzzle too short? she weights 19 pounds, and she is on a diet. how much should pugs weigh? i know that breeding will add to the pugs that are in rescues, but its not my dog. its my mothers dog.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:20 PM
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I would say that that much gray is defiantly abnormal for her age, but some dogs do gray early. Is your Mom 100% sure of her dogs age? If not, I would really refrain from breeding her. Most pugs really need to have their first litter as close to 2 years old as possible, they are quite different from other breeds. Plus, make sure that you Mom knows that there is a VERY likely chance that her pug will need a c-section, it is VERY common practice for the breed. A lot of them make really cruddy mothers as well and puppies need to be bottle fed every 2 hours around the clock.
I am pretty sure that she is 3.5 years old, but i will tell my mom to check her papers. my mom knows about pugs needing c-sections. i warned her about c-sections already. about how much would a c-section cost?
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:25 PM
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This is the male that my mom might breed missy to. i have no idea how close he is to the standard.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:30 PM
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This is a puppy produced by the male dog.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:56 PM
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wow, i had no idea. How is she so different from the standard? too many wrinkles? muzzle too short? she weights 19 pounds, and she is on a diet. how much should pugs weigh? i know that breeding will add to the pugs that are in rescues, but its not my dog. its my mothers dog.
Okay, I will answer each of your posts in sections, so bare with me! She is not close to the standard for a number of reasons. Please keep in mind that even if she is far from standard, I still recognize that she is a loved and cherished family member. I am not saying what I am saying to put her down, or pick her apart. I just feel that only dogs that adhere strictly to standard should be bred- to improve the breed. So, here are my reasons:
* A female pug should way 14-16 lbs. At a healthy weight.
* Her head is rather long and apple shaped instead of circular and round (globular)
*Her ears are too long, the the tips should not pass the corners of her eyes.
*She is too long in body. Pugs should have a very short back and be a square. When they are evenly stacked and not overstretched, you should be able to draw a square underneath them.
* Her topline is roached and not level.
*She has a loose and incomplete tail curl. The double curl is best. She has a single loose curl, curling over her back instead of laying on her back towards her hip.
*She appears to also be lacking in neck length and arch.
* I can't tell from the pics if she has appropriate trace down her back and if her nails are black etc.

Either way, these are some of my reasons.
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