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Old 06-03-2012, 11:49 PM
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*Confused* I always take my dog and dogs (when I still had 2) into our local petsmart. And everytime I went there were, GASP, other dogs.

I will give the father the benefit of the doubt and say that clearly it isn't our business why he was there. Although I do find it a bit odd and wouldn't personally do it.

However the dogs there have just as much right to be there as the children and their father so that statement was so out of left field. I can't even begin to fathom why anyone brought that up.

What would have happened had the child been afraid of say, ferrets, and there were ferrets there?
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:05 AM
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^^^This.

At least he wasn't forcing her to go up to the strangers' dogs... I've seen parents do that before.

And flooding DOES work SOMETIMES, not only with human fears but also with dog fears. It probably shouldn't be the go-to fear fixer - especially in dogs who can't explain what they're thinking and feeling - but it CAN work.

What's that saying about getting back on a horse? That's flooding.... If you fall off a horse and are scared to ride again, most trainers don't start you on a regimen of systematic desensetization, they tell you to get back on. And at least sometimes, it works.


Would I bring a terrified kid into Petsmart? No, but I'm also a psychologist and animal training specialist. Am I suprised that this dad brought his kid to the store? Absolutely not, it's really not the dumbest thing he could've done.
Yeah, sums up my thoughts. My niece is severely terrified of dogs. ANY dogs, and for no apparent reason. We've been gradually exposing her to my dogs and she can be in the same room as them now, but will practically climb up her parents if one of the dogs stands up.

It's really hard to know why. Some people view phobias as something kids will grow out of if they get exposed to the object of their fear regularly and nothing bad happens, over and over. And honestly, it tends to work. Also, making a big deal out of the fact that a kid is scared can feed into it so it's probably good that he wasn't flipping out about her behavior either.

Petsmart isn't the best place to take a dog phobic kid, but it isn't the worst either. He may have been hoping to find a place that had well behaved, leashed dogs.

Aurelia was born terrified of birds. Even Moxiecollies' beautiful, tiny, rainbow, lady gouldian finch scared her to death. I was able to gradually desensitize her and now she adores them. She holds chicks, feeds ducks out of her hands, etc.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:30 AM
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I have to say, although that is fairly strange behavior of the parent in my eyes, what bothers me SO much more is when parents take their kids to Petsmart JUST to go tap on the rodent's glass, pet the dogs and make stupid faces at the cats in the adoption section. Some people look at Petsmart as free kid entertainment, which seems a little rude to the people who are really there for nothing other than truly getting things for their pets.

I think it is a little odd, I wonder why the kid was so afraid of dogs and whether or not the father was intentionally bringing her there to help her get over it (which, well, might not be the best set up but for a regular non-dog person of course that seems logical), or maybe he didn't even know? How was the father reacting to his child's behavior? If I were him I would be trying to figure out what the problem stems from, and the way I'd personally work on it is by finding some really non-responsive dogs (like a nice aloof sighthound or something, a dog who is TRULY tolerant of people, but won't make a lot of eye contact or jump, lick or get in the kid's face) and starting out at a distance, and giving the kid candy or something, and continually ask the kid questions about how they're feeling about the situation and what makes them worry the most about dogs... (one of the great things about children and fear is that they can talk, making them considerably more simple to figure out).
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:33 AM
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I agree with Jess.

Maybe it's just me and it might not make sense at all when put into practice with some people... but I would think that the more times that kid is around dogs and nothing bad happens, the more it might help her issues.
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Old 06-04-2012, 07:16 AM
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the mom probably had dad stop and pick something up and he had no idea what was going on with her.

a lot of dads are clueless with this kind of thing.

i know chris would take ginnie in a heart beat to petsmart thinking she would love it , i know on the other hand it would terrify her as she is also scared of dogs.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:48 AM
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Yeah, idk... without immediatley knowing the situation it's hard to judge. There are so many different factors.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:27 PM
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what bothers me SO much more is when parents take their kids to Petsmart JUST to go tap on the rodent's glass, pet the dogs and make stupid faces at the cats in the adoption section. Some people look at Petsmart as free kid entertainment, which seems a little rude to the people who are really there for nothing other than truly getting things for their pets.
I completely disagree. Growing up my sisters and I LOVED animals, but we couldn't have any pets. We walked our elderly neighbor's dog almost every day just because we loved dogs so much. But besides occasionally seeing a dog or cat at a friend's or family member's house, we didn't get a lot of contact with animals. So one of our favorite things to do was to go to the local pet store and "tap on the glass" and see the animals.

Heck, I went to Petsmart last week to kill time waiting for a friend, and walked around looking at all the animals.

I've NEVER been bothered by kids (or adults, LOL) just looking at animals when I'm in Petsmart (or any other pet store).
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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I completely disagree. Growing up my sisters and I LOVED animals, but we couldn't have any pets. We walked our elderly neighbor's dog almost every day just because we loved dogs so much. But besides occasionally seeing a dog or cat at a friend's or family member's house, we didn't get a lot of contact with animals. So one of our favorite things to do was to go to the local pet store and "tap on the glass" and see the animals.

Heck, I went to Petsmart last week to kill time waiting for a friend, and walked around looking at all the animals.

I've NEVER been bothered by kids (or adults, LOL) just looking at animals when I'm in Petsmart (or any other pet store).
I don't think she meant just looking...more like, obnoxiously looking? Lol. I know I get sick of kids tapping on the glass at the grooming salon because it's hard to groom a dog while it is trying to look at something else.
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I completely disagree. Growing up my sisters and I LOVED animals, but we couldn't have any pets. We walked our elderly neighbor's dog almost every day just because we loved dogs so much. But besides occasionally seeing a dog or cat at a friend's or family member's house, we didn't get a lot of contact with animals. So one of our favorite things to do was to go to the local pet store and "tap on the glass" and see the animals.

Heck, I went to Petsmart last week to kill time waiting for a friend, and walked around looking at all the animals.

I've NEVER been bothered by kids (or adults, LOL) just looking at animals when I'm in Petsmart (or any other pet store).
I don't think it's a big deal for people to go just to look, but obnoxious kids tapping on the glass (or, anyone tapping on the glass) is irksome. Not so much that it bothers ME but I always feel like it must bug the animals that are behind the glass.

Heck, we don't even sell animals at the store I work at. The only living thing we have, aside from the crickets, is a foster cat in a cage at the front of the store. And we still get oodles of people that let their kids loose and tell them "go look at the cat" while they ask us a billion questions or shop. And then we have to play the parents and make sure the kids aren't actually pestering her. Or the people that bring their dogs with while they shop, and then they have random kids bugging them and their dog....

Okay, maybe a totally different tangent. But yeah I get annoyed when pet stores end up being a way to keep kids entertained. If it's done respectfully that's cool (I, too, frequented pet stores as a kid just to look), but usually it's not. =P
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:23 PM
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*Confused* I always take my dog and dogs (when I still had 2) into our local petsmart. And everytime I went there were, GASP, other dogs.

I will give the father the benefit of the doubt and say that clearly it isn't our business why he was there. Although I do find it a bit odd and wouldn't personally do it.

However the dogs there have just as much right to be there as the children and their father so that statement was so out of left field. I can't even begin to fathom why anyone brought that up.

What would have happened had the child been afraid of say, ferrets, and there were ferrets there?
and I take my ferrets to the local petsmart. 9 times out of 10, there's no dog there, or one or two at max.

If there's a child that is afraid of my ferrets then, gasp, I walk my ferrets away from the child so the child is not uncomfortable.
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