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Old 06-03-2012, 05:38 PM
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It's very possible he was hoping to help her work on her issues.

My boss's grandchild is afraid of dogs and came to my work the other day. We asked her to say hi to a puppy and when she cried and hid behind her mom we said, oh well, and walked away having a great time with the puppy without her.

I'm no expert but staying home and away from all dogs I assume will only make the fear worse.
Yeah I thought about that too, but I think there would be better ways to try to acclimate the kid to dogs rather than a place where she doesn't know if dogs are lurking around the corner on the isle over. And I think it would also be very helpful if the dog owners in the area knew that the kid was afraid of dogs so they can avoid scary situations for her.

I would think maybe out in an open area with one really laid back small dog would be a better idea? Maybe, I'm no expert. To put it in training terms, it almost seemed like flooding, which I would think would make the fear worse.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:38 PM
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I'm not sure how people are supposed to KNOW there'll be dogs at Petsmart. 9 time out of 10 when I go, the only dogs there are in grooming or boarding/day care. And that's not only one Petsmart.
I don't know where you live... but I worked in a Petsmart for 3 years, and there was always at least a few dogs in the store. At peak hours, there are several dogs in every aisle! And lots of people who didn't even leash their dogs, I'd have to chase them and give them a slip lead. There would be people there with their dogs the second we opened, and after we were closed, every day. Many Petsmarts (like mine, which I worked in) also have hotels in them, so there's a constant flow of dogs going in and out.

It's so irresponsible as a parent to "flood" your child with strange dogs walking around when you know they're uncomfortable, especially to wander through the store for no reason. You can go to so many stores where dogs aren't allowed and that have the same products as Petsmart. Service dogs are allowed in any store, however, and the child should be introduced to friendly dogs so that she's not living with that phobia for life.

Another pet peeve of mine is the opposite - children running around Petsmart like it's a playground, petting/grabbing/hugging dogs without asking. I saved a kid whose parents were completely ignoring him from being bitten in the face in the hotel lobby once. Like, the dog was inches away from his face, and I jumped in between them. People who are that irresponsible as parents are the same with their dogs, just careless.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:50 PM
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It's very possible he was hoping to help her work on her issues.

My boss's grandchild is afraid of dogs and came to my work the other day. We asked her to say hi to a puppy and when she cried and hid behind her mom we said, oh well, and walked away having a great time with the puppy without her.

I'm no expert but staying home and away from all dogs I assume will only make the fear worse.
Staying away from dogs won't make the fear worse, but it certainly won't help. Working on her fear of dogs is the only good reason I can come up with, but it seems like a pretty poor idea... you don't know what KIND of dogs might be at the store. You could be setting your kid up for a serious scare and definitely make her fears worse. If you don't have any friends with dogs, that makes it hard to work on, but it doesn't seem wise to take them somewhere you have no real control over the situation. But yeah, it's possible the dad thought going to the pet store would help her get over her fear. Not everybody has enough of a psychology brain to know what will and won't work. Plenty of people seem to think flooding is a perfectly acceptable way to get someone over a fear, and think it works.


It's a reasonable conclusion that a dog could be at a pet store where not only are leashed pets welcome to shop, but they have daily training classes as well.
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:11 PM
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It's actually too bad he didn't ask you if the kids could take a look at your dogs, and pet them himself. Try to help that phobia...everyone has dogs, the kids should learn how to act around them. It actually drives me nuts when I see people come in through the fish tanks or look at the mice and rats and tell their children "Ewwwww, those are gross! How scary! Ew ew ew..". That really doesn't help your children grow up phobia free.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:35 PM
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I can understand bringing her with if there was something they needed to grab. Or even if they were just killing time and browsing for nothing. BUT I think as the parent he should have realized his child was not comfortable with dogs being around.... and therefore left at that point...
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Working on her fear of dogs is the only good reason I can come up with, but it seems like a pretty poor idea... you don't know what KIND of dogs might be at the store. You could be setting your kid up for a serious scare and definitely make her fears worse. If you don't have any friends with dogs, that makes it hard to work on, but it doesn't seem wise to take them somewhere you have no real control over the situation. But yeah, it's possible the dad thought going to the pet store would help her get over her fear. Not everybody has enough of a psychology brain to know what will and won't work. Plenty of people seem to think flooding is a perfectly acceptable way to get someone over a fear, and think it works.
^^^This.

At least he wasn't forcing her to go up to the strangers' dogs... I've seen parents do that before.

And flooding DOES work SOMETIMES, not only with human fears but also with dog fears. It probably shouldn't be the go-to fear fixer - especially in dogs who can't explain what they're thinking and feeling - but it CAN work.

What's that saying about getting back on a horse? That's flooding.... If you fall off a horse and are scared to ride again, most trainers don't start you on a regimen of systematic desensetization, they tell you to get back on. And at least sometimes, it works.


Would I bring a terrified kid into Petsmart? No, but I'm also a psychologist and animal training specialist. Am I suprised that this dad brought his kid to the store? Absolutely not, it's really not the dumbest thing he could've done.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:08 PM
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I can understand bringing her with if there was something they needed to grab. Or even if they were just killing time and browsing for nothing. BUT I think as the parent he should have realized his child was not comfortable with dogs being around.... and therefore left at that point...
That's how I feel about it. Obviously they have every right to be there, but as a parent why would you want to continue to subject your kid to something she was terrified of? If he was there trying to work on her fears, I think his methods are suspect.
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Because there are other reasons to go to Petsmart than to see dogs? Because the child wanted to go and look at the cats and other animals? Because the kid has just as much right to be there?
That's kind of harsh, Jess.

You have a kid that is severely afraid of dogs; it isn't rocket science to determine that a pet store may not be the best place to take her because you MAY run into dogs and that MAY cause the kid to flip out.

There are ALWAYS dogs in the pet store I go to, whether its customers with their dogs or dogs that are being housed for the shelter. Always dogs and cats there.
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Didn't read everything, but I think you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions, though. Maybe they had to get stuff and didn't really have anywhere else for their child to go?
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