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Old 05-23-2012, 01:35 PM
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Okay, I'm starting to research Boxers now. I find them to be very beautiful dogs. They look like they are pretty good watch dogs, but yet are a happy go lucky affectionate type of dog.

My questions are, Are these dogs okay with a novice? Some websites are saying too that these dogs have TONS of energy and want to run 24/7, while other say they need moderate amount of exercise and have moderate energy. Which one is true??? I've also looked up some reviews about Boxers, and some owners say these dogs have a bad stubborn streak and will "shut down" when it comes to training, while other owners say they are VERY eager to please and are easily trainable. So I'm confused.......Do Boxers have a high energy level or moderate? And are they easily trainable, or hard to train????

Do any of you guys have experience with Boxers? What are these dogs like?? I don't have much experience with training dogs and for exercise, I prefer a long walk. Would a Boxer fit any of my needs??
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:55 PM
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I had a boxer for about 10 years. They are such a stunning breed. With Rocko....when he was a pup he was VERY active (and very naughty) and VERY ready to please. He was a breeze to train new things. As the years past and he got older, he got way less active and VERY stubborn. I would be outside with him and call him in (he would just stand there) he would flick his ears back and completely ignore me. -_- He wasn't what I would call a "guard dog" he would bark at people when they were at the door, but other than that...he didn't do much LOL I think if someone were to come in the house and give him a bone he would let them do as they please.. haha. Rocko was always up for a walk..but after about a mile or so he would start dragging and I would literally have to pull him back..LOL (then again he was 7-8 years old)..when he was younger he could run for days without a problem. He was very adaptable too..we could bring in other dogs and change things around and he adapted to change very well.

I hope this helps! I know not all dogs are the same...but he seemed to fit the description pretty well. Very active when young and a stubborn lazy old man later in life lol
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:08 PM
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Boxers vary GREATLY depending on what kind of breeder they are from. Unfortunately, like most popular breeds, there are many awful Boxer breeders out there producing unstable dogs. I have met wonderful, sweet, laid back Boxers from show lines. I have met uncontrollable, jumping, clawing, insane Boxers from backyard breeders. And everything in between.

In general, I find that most Boxers jump on people - they were bred to jump up and use their paws, hence the name "Boxer". So if that's something that bothers you & you aren't willing to put in time/consistency, that might be an issue. A lot of Boxers at my work (dog daycare) will literally jump on you and claw your face up, which is one of the reasons it's the least favorite breed of most of my co-workers. Some are very suspicious of people, will snap at you, and I would say about half are dog aggressive - all of the DA/HA Boxers I have met are very obviously badly bred dogs with horrible conformation. We also get Boxers who are perfectly well-behaved, gentle and sweet, whose owners clearly got them from good breeders and put in the time to socialize and train them.

I don't feel that Boxers are a good breed for the typical novice dog owner. They can be very stubborn and willful, like any bully breed. They are VERY energetic and need to be exercised daily... this is an active, working dog! However, if you're a novice who genuinely has the time, patience and motivation to be very consistent and pro-active about training and daily exercise, you'll probably have a great dog. It would be a good idea to search for reputable breeders who show & work their dogs, on your state's Boxer club website. Go to shows, meet dogs and their breeders, and learn about the breed hands on. Looks is only one of a million reasons to choose a dog to take in for the next 15 years! You could also contact your local Boxer rescue and look into adult dogs in foster homes, who already have foundation training and known temperaments.

If you want a lazy, low-key dog who requires little training, I do not recommend a Boxer.
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Do any of you guys have experience with Boxers? What are these dogs like?? I don't have much experience with training dogs and for exercise, I prefer a long walk. Would a Boxer fit any of my needs??
I've never owned a Boxer but I have a lot of Boxer experience. One of my bosses has Boxers that I spend two days a week or more around (they're 8 or 9 now and I've known them since they were puppies, also knew her previous Boxer), we had multiple Boxers at daycare, I've worked with a local Boxer person's dogs for them (training/socialization), showed a Boxer a few times and have seen quite a lot in classes over the years. And they've ranged from well bred to very poorly bred.

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They are wildly, over exuberant as puppies and young adults. Hyper would be a good word and during that time, they definitely need a lot of physical activity. There's a reason we had a lot of Boxers at daycare They are also extremely physical in their play. They enjoy body slamming you (the harder the better!), leaping at you, grabbing you with their mouth, etc. It is very easy to get them overly excited and bring out these behaviors. They have hard heads and interactions with them can be painful if improperly choreographed LOL This wildness does tend to even out a bit by time they're 3 to 5 (years, not months LOL) but even my boss's dogs who are definitely older for Boxers are not hard at all to get wound into a body slamming, mouthing, barking frenzy.


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I've also looked up some reviews about Boxers, and some owners say these dogs have a bad stubborn streak and will "shut down" when it comes to training, while other owners say they are VERY eager to please and are easily trainable. So I'm confused.......Do Boxers have a high energy level or moderate? And are they easily trainable, or hard to train????
I'd say the truth is somewhere in between. Most I have known have not been even remotely soft dogs, definitely not dogs who shut down easily. Actually quite the opposite - most have been the sort of dogs who rarely get hurt feelings about anything. I think about every Boxer I've known has been extremely food motivated and most like toys too, so the potential is definitely there for training. I think many of them don't necessarily take well to being forced to do things though. Not so much that they shut down but they can try to resist as hard you can try to force. I wouldn't say stubborn as much as strong willed. IME they are not as biddable as my herding breed dogs are. They are devoted to their owners but don't have the sort of built in focus and desire to work for you. They're ,more dogs who need to learn that working with you is the best way for them to get what they want.

Boxers are goofy dogs but quite a few I've known also have had some pretty serious guarding instinct. Like there is no way a stranger could safely walk into their house or yard. A couple were very..."weird" about non-family members handling them in certain ways or behaving in certain ways. One of the daycare Boxers bit the daycare owner in the face once because she bent over him. He was the sort of dog who would get mad if you stared at him or tried to hug him too. He lives with another Boxer from the same breeder who's the total opposite, seems to have no guarding instinct at all. One of the Boxers I worked with for the show person was very similar, happy, goofy, silly dog out and about and if he knew you but very serious guard dog at home.

Other things to keep in mind about Boxers would be same sex aggression is pretty much the norm in them. Not all are same sex aggressive or SSA with all same sex dogs but most serious Boxer people expect them to be and plan accordingly. With dog-dog play, most dogs not familiar with Boxers seem to very much dislike the breed's play style which is extremely rough, pouncing, hitting, body slamming, etc. They can very easily become daycare or dog park bullies or ruin play experiences for other dogs. Because of the Boxers at daycare, Jagger hates pretty much every Boxer - even girls. As they mature, some become less tolerant of group play situations.

Health is not a strong point with the breed. A large number of them seem to develop some sort of heart issue during their life. This can range from minor to the dog dropping dead from cardiomyopathy. Unfortunately I've even known it to happen with cardio tested dogs. I believe they are prone to cancer as well. The long time Boxer breeder I know said that you're lucky with a lot of them they make it to 10. Of course, I've known very old Boxers too so they don't necessarily always have short lifespans.

Hope that helps!

ETA: The most laid back Boxers I've come across have mostly been pet bred. The really ADD ones (dogs who can't find food in your hand in front of their face because they are too excited about the food) have all been pet bred. The show bred ones I've been around the most have been absolutely wild, especially as youngsters. I'm sure like anything, it varies depending on lines and individuals.
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I've never owned a boxer but I've worked with plenty, I love them.

98% of the time they're a happy, goofy, loving, fun dog. They have always been easy for me to train. They've also always had boundless energy (even the 9 y/o I knew).
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Hmm, so most Boxer have alot of energy?? I was more looking for a more laid back moderate amount of energy type of dog. So I'm guessing a Boxer wouldn't fit that???

To be honest, I guess I'm not the person who wants to train their dog all day long, entering in agility, Schutzhund etc. Yes I am willing to do some training, but not as much as some people do. I want a dog for a pet, alerting me of anything amiss, and will make intruders think twice before entering.

Problem is, every dog i look into either is, too strong willed, needs too much exercise, or needs too much grooming. I really like the Newfoundland, but I'm not quite sure I could handle all the shedding, grooming, and drool. Besides that, I REALLY like them.
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Hmm, so most Boxer have alot of energy?? I was more looking for a more laid back moderate amount of energy type of dog. So I'm guessing a Boxer wouldn't fit that???
There are laid back Boxers out there but as a whole, IME the breed seems to be pretty active.

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Problem is, every dog i look into either is, too strong willed, needs too much exercise, or needs too much grooming. I really like the Newfoundland, but I'm not quite sure I could handle all the shedding, grooming, and drool. Besides that, I REALLY like them.
People may cringe at this but you can always get a Newfie and keep it in a short trim to make the coat more manageable. Of course, that doesn't do much for the drool and the drool is considerable LOL

What about a Smooth Collie? Definitely good watch dog potential but will welcome guests into the home without an issue. Tri-color or merle Smooths don't look like Lassie one bit and especially Tri markings seem to put the general public in the mind of Dobes, I was often asked if my Rough Tri was part Doberman.


Definitely ok dogs for first time owners. Moderate energy level, would be up for being active when you were but make good house dogs. Trainable and overall good companions. They might be a bit friendly for you but most aren't Golden or Lab friendly and honestly, dogs predisposed towards being friendly are so much easier that it might be a good compromise to consider. They do shed a couple times a year but don't require professional grooming and it wouldn't be near the maintenance that a Newfie would be. The Collie Club of America has a lot of good info: http://www.collieclubofamerica.org/m...e_collie2.html
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There are laid back Boxers out there but as a whole, IME the breed seems to be pretty active.
I personally don't find Boxers to be outstanding in the amount of energy level they have - but I'm also used to Labs. If you're willing to do two long walks a day and general play sessions around the house throughout the day, I think you'll be just fine. Boxers don't need miles of jogging or intense training sessions to be satisfied. But if you are looking for a couch potato dog that you don't want to take on walks daily or play with around the house...then yes, a Boxer likely wouldn't be a good fit.

And I second the Smooth Collie suggestion.
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People may cringe at this but you can always get a Newfie and keep it in a short trim to make the coat more manageable. Of course, that doesn't do much for the drool and the drool is considerable LOL

What about a Smooth Collie? Definitely good watch dog potential but will welcome guests into the home without an issue. Tri-color or merle Smooths don't look like Lassie one bit and especially Tri markings seem to put the general public in the mind of Dobes, I was often asked if my Rough Tri was part Doberman.


Definitely ok dogs for first time owners. Moderate energy level, would be up for being active when you were but make good house dogs. Trainable and overall good companions. They might be a bit friendly for you but most aren't Golden or Lab friendly and honestly, dogs predisposed towards being friendly are so much easier that it might be a good compromise to consider. They do shed a couple times a year but don't require professional grooming and it wouldn't be near the maintenance that a Newfie would be. The Collie Club of America has a lot of good info: http://www.collieclubofamerica.org/m...e_collie2.html
Thank you for mentioning this breed! So far, they are fitting everything I want in a dog. I'm still going to do quite a bit of research on them though.
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What about a standard poodle. I know the grooming requirments can be a little crazy, but what I've noticed about them is that they can make an awesome watch dogs. And I don't think their energy level is through the roof.
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