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Old 05-18-2012, 08:17 PM
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I have a bit more sympathy with dogs getting out since dealing with Tallulah's door dashing antics before we got that settled down.

And I learned, when she did it, to go back in the house, grab the leash and the truck keys and just go start up the truck instead of trying to run her down or get her to come back for cookies. Usually she'd be whining to jump in the truck before I got out of the driveway, thankfully.
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:33 PM
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I'm all for finding justice where it's due but in this case... it's just a story of not obeying the leash law and finding out the hard way the consequences of that.
can you show me where it says there was a leash law? I read the article, and couldn't find it.

You know, all you that said that the dog shouldn't be running around loose, have you never had a dog escape the yard? Even if you have security features, like double 6 foot fences, it can still happen -- it has happened to me.

Also, I fail to see the point of bringing up the fact that his other dog was offleash. So what? Just because your dog isn't good offleash, doesn't mean his is. Some dogs are better offleash than on -- I know Rosey is/was (more so when she could hear and see). To be honest, if somebody came after my dog with a machete, it wouldn't make a difference if I had a leash or not -- that dog would still be dead. What would I do? Hit the guy with a leash? Cause I'm sure that would stop him. (and I know I wouldn't be a match to a machete)
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Old 05-18-2012, 08:49 PM
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One on hand, I think letting your dog run loose in the neighborhood is irresponsible and neglectful frankly. first of all. It's a tragedy and I really feel bad for the poor dog that had to suffer because of it but wether hit by a car, poisoned or something that like this.. the fault lies with the owner.

but on the other.. let's say somebody breaks into my house.
It's WRONG for them to break in, of course.
but does that means it ok for me to pop Saw 3 in the DVD player, trap them in the basement and think of ways to torture and kill them because of it?

What I mean is, the owner is at fault, 100% of course.

..but that doesn't excuse psycho behavior from the other dude who found the opportunity to be a psycho and use a machete to kill an animal.
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:47 PM
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Yep... I have had a dog escape and be hit by a car and die. Know who was at fault? I was. Clip broke, teddy (who had been off leash many times) would not come to my recalls... Basically jumped in front of oncoming car. MY FAULT!!!!!

Yeah some dogs are fine off leash... Except when one dog is reported as showing up on other peoples property multiple times an then After said dog is brutally murdered you do your news story with other dog off lead. I din't care how great you think your dog is off lead would you really risk that with a psycho loose in the neighborhood? NOT reponsible behavior no matter how one tries to spin it

And I wish people would stop acting like we are a ok with machete guy just because we happen to think the owner is irresponsible
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Old 05-18-2012, 11:12 PM
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I am sooooo NOT ok with the machete-wielding psycho. I think he's disturbed, and needs to be investigated.
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Old 05-19-2012, 12:05 AM
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Yep... I have had a dog escape and be hit by a car and die. Know who was at fault? I was. Clip broke, teddy (who had been off leash many times) would not come to my recalls... Basically jumped in front of oncoming car. MY FAULT!!!!!
I'm not seeing how that was really your fault. Did your equipment fail? Yes. Was it your fault the equipment failed? Could you have reasonably foreseen that it was going to fail and taken steps to prevent it? Unless the clip was rusting apart, I'm going to guess no on that.

(((hugs))) I'm really sorry you lost him that way. It just doesn't seem healthy to carry the blame for an accident, that really sounds like it was just that. An accident. Not every tragedy is the result of some negligence on somebody's part. Sometimes sad stuff just happens in life.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:18 AM
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can you show me where it says there was a leash law? I read the article, and couldn't find it.

You know, all you that said that the dog shouldn't be running around loose, have you never had a dog escape the yard? Even if you have security features, like double 6 foot fences, it can still happen -- it has happened to me.
Hidalgo county and Alamo Texas both have leash laws and dangerous dog laws. You can google it. When the police came to visit the guy they told him that there was nothing they could do since his dog was offleash. When he emailed Peta their response was ... put your other dog on a leash.

Yes I've had a dog slip the gate before. It's my responsibility 100% by either accident or incident. If my dog got out into the road and was hit by a car I would be responsible both for the death of the dog and any cost for damage done to the car. If my dog was eaten by a rabid chipmunk I would still be the responsible party. If a tree fell on my fence and my dog got out and bit someone it would still be my responsibility.
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Yes I've had a dog slip the gate before. It's my responsibility 100% by either accident or incident.
Ditto that. Responsibility being the KEY word!

When we first got Phoebe from the humane society, she was approx. 8 months old, and she was also a trash raiding, chewing, digging, door dasher. And yes, she escaped out the front door, but we went after her (cause you know, that's what owners who love their pet would do) and were VERY blessed nothing happened. We set to work training RIGHT AWAY because that is the responsible response in addition to precautions and leashes. Ask smkie about old Pepper vs new improved Pepper.

THIS WAS RIGHT AT THE END OF THE GUY'S STREET......if the dog had just slipped a lead or accidentally escaped, where was the guy? Didn't seem to be out searching for the dog.

For those of you who are saying stuff like.... "for a forum of dog lovers....." Seriously? It's NOT the dog you are defending, you are defending an IRRESPONSIBLE owner who wants sympathy for HELPING end the life of that dog.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:04 AM
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When one of my APBTs was stolen (many years ago), two of my other APBTs were let loose. Now, mind you, someone cut the padlock off my gate latch and helped themselves into my yard right before 7:00 am while I was in the shower (they were brazen fools), but it still resulted in 2 of my dogs running loose. I actually found my male in my neighbor's backyard running in circles with their husky (lucky, lucky me that nothing happened!), and my other dog was found further down the road. A truck had stopped and the driver was attempting to get her in his truck so that no harm would come to her.

I am beyond grateful that things with the 2 loose dogs turned out ok. They could've been hit by a car, attacked neighbors' dogs, or gleefully chased things just out of nervousness/anxiety caused by their situation.

And yet....I would have been 100% responsible for anything that would have happened. No, I didn't let my dogs roam loose. No, they didn't just slip the gate or bolt out the door. But the reason why they were out doesn't take away from the fact that I own the dogs, thus I am responsible for them.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:25 AM
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[QUOTE=ACooper;1993039
For those of you who are saying stuff like.... "for a forum of dog lovers....." Seriously? It's NOT the dog you are defending, you are defending an IRRESPONSIBLE owner who wants sympathy for HELPING end the life of that dog.[/QUOTE]

I'm not defending the guy's lack of responsibility, I'm still finding killing a dog with a machete - a decision the person who chose to do it is also responsible for - a sad and tragic event that warrants sympathy for the owner regardless of whose "fault" it is.

I don't have a problem with holding an owner responsible for their actions, but it does bother me to see comments like "welp, really no sympathy for the owner." No one is perfect and I would hope that any one of us would have sympathy for one another if we lost one of our beloved pets, regardless of the circumstances.
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