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Old 04-28-2012, 11:41 PM
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I really liked how the dogs did on Surf n Turf, but I had the same issues with small kibble sizes. The dogs were so confused, and it kind of made things complicated when they tried inhaling their food. There was a lot of hacking involved. And a few may have gone up their noses.

But I really did like the results. They did gain weight a little more easily on it, though. Other issue was, our dog feed store was ALWAYS out of it. So we had to switch.


I can imagine a bigger dog being confused. Even Jackson, who is only about 15lbs, gets confused.

I do remember the pork & applesauce not being terribly small... average-ish sized. But he didn't do that well on that one.

I did look into the whitefish, but he can be really picky with fish-products. He won't eat MOST fish-flavored foods, except for Acana pacifica which stunk to high heaven IMO and I won't feed it anymore for my sake LOL. I wish they sold little sample bags of their food so I could try it first. I always feel bad returning a whole bag, even though I know they will take it back.
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:43 PM
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Haha yeah I feel like my dog is screwed up for having issues on it, since it seems like everyone else loves it!
Maybe we're just too picky about what "doing well" means.

And I can't for the life of me understand why they decided to make all their kibble sizes so itty bitty. Juno doesn't care, but it's still weird to me lol.
Yeah, I'm probably WAY too picky and nobody else would notice anything different about him, but I do. I pay way too much attention, haha.

I seem to remember hearing something about "better digestion" or something with the small kibbles? but don't quote me on that.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:25 AM
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Yes, I'm feeding that exact food now, Gold large breed adult, to Enda and little Mini Dachsie Noods. They are doing fine on it, although Noods is still in need of weight loss, but at this point that is more of a lack of exercise issue. I think Enda's poops are fine, they smell, but they always smell on kibble no matter what it is.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:48 AM
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I've fed all four of the Four-Star grain-free varieties, and they're all super tiny kibble. I would say the rest of the Four-Star line and the Gold line are all about average/small size - bigger than the grain-free, but still on the smaller side.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:19 AM
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If it makes you guys feel any better, Frodo wouldn't do well on it if we tried him with it (because Frodo is no egg, and they use egg in every formula )
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:21 AM
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Another issue you may have finding a large kibble size is that most large breed kibble foods only come in large bags, which would probably last Jackson 12 years
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I just got a bag of the Large Breed Adult. I can't say I am impressed with the ingredients:

Duck, Chicken Meal, Chicken, Oatmeal, Pearled Barley, Brown Rice, White Rice, ect.

So once the water is out of the Chicken & Duck, they are moved further down on the list.

So really it should say:
Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Pearled Barley, Brown Rice, White Rice, ect.


Never go into the petstore when you are in a rush. I wanted to try something different (I rotate brands) and knew this brand is supposed to be premium.
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Old 04-29-2012, 02:33 PM
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I just got a bag of the Large Breed Adult. I can't say I am impressed with the ingredients:

Duck, Chicken Meal, Chicken, Oatmeal, Pearled Barley, Brown Rice, White Rice, ect.

So once the water is out of the Chicken & Duck, they are moved further down on the list.

So really it should say:
Chicken Meal, Oatmeal, Pearled Barley, Brown Rice, White Rice, ect.


Never go into the petstore when you are in a rush. I wanted to try something different (I rotate brands) and knew this brand is supposed to be premium.
It IS premium. Yes, their Gold line is more grain heavy than some of their other four star foods. "Premium" doesn't just mean super meat heavy.

IMO Fromm is premium for the quality of their ingredients, the dependability of the company, and because I think they made kick-ass dog food. You also have to take into account just how much meat is put into the food. The ingredient list is set up in order of weight. So, for example (and these are obviously not real numbers ), there could be 100 pounds of chicken meal and 10 pounds of oatmeal going into the product. Meaning it is still very meat heavy. There just has to be less, in weight, of everything after the previous ingredient, that doesn't speak to HOW MUCH of each ingredient there is in the food. This makes sense in MY head at least

I would rather feed a food where I know that the ingredients are of the highest quality, though maybe contains less meat, than an ingredient panel where the first 5 ingredients are meat meals from less than stellar sources. Because meat/protein content alone doesn't matter, grade of meat/protein matters too.

But then again, this is the ingredient list of the food I feed, and I think it is absolutely the best pet food company out there.
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Herring Meal, Split Peas, Menhaden Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Sun-Cured Alfalfa, Aspergillus Niger Fermentation Culture, Aspergillus Oryzae Fermentation Culture, Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Culture, Sun-Cured Kelp, FOS (prebiotic), Potassium Chloride, Calcium Carbonate, Sodium Chloride, Selenium, Fenugreek, Taurine, Vitamin E, Zinc Proteinate, Papaya, Rose Hips, Vitamin C, Niacin, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Manganese Proteinate, Vitamin A, Vitamin D3, Riboflavin, Biotin, Vitamin B-12, Folic Acid, Potassium Proteinate.
I think saying that Fromm is not a premium food is quite a stretch.
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Ok premium isn't the word I should have used, I meant meat-content wise. Not really putting the company down, this is one product out of many. I bet the grain free has more meat.

I did look at the protein level (23% minimum) on my bag too. Which imo, is low-ish. The TOTW I was feeding was a bit higher than that. But I don't want to mess with Diamond anymore.

I will have to check out the grain free.

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I get exactly what you are saying, (throwing imaginary numbers out there) it could be 90% Chicken Meal & 10% everything else. That is what sucks about dog food, you can read (& understand) the back of the bag but in some ways you still don't know a d@mn thing LOL!
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It IS premium. Yes, their Gold line is more grain heavy than some of their other four star foods. "Premium" doesn't just mean super meat heavy.

IMO Fromm is premium for the quality of their ingredients, the dependability of the company, and because I think they made kick-ass dog food. You also have to take into account just how much meat is put into the food. The ingredient list is set up in order of weight. So, for example (and these are obviously not real numbers ), there could be 100 pounds of chicken meal and 10 pounds of oatmeal going into the product. Meaning it is still very meat heavy. There just has to be less, in weight, of everything after the previous ingredient, that doesn't speak to HOW MUCH of each ingredient there is in the food. This makes sense in MY head at least

I would rather feed a food where I know that the ingredients are of the highest quality, though maybe contains less meat, than an ingredient panel where the first 5 ingredients are meat meals from less than stellar sources. Because meat/protein content alone doesn't matter, grade of meat/protein matters too.

But then again, this is the ingredient list of the food I feed, and I think it is absolutely the best pet food company out there.


I think saying that Fromm is not a premium food is quite a stretch.
This x100000.

JW, is that food you posted Canine Caviar? If so, I LOVE what I've read about all their foods and their company... but why are pretty much all of the formulas so high in cals? They seem like a LOT at 599 kcals/cup. And let me tell you, Jackson LOVES to eat. I don't think I could give him less than 2/3 cup on a good day (he gets 1/2 cup on a lazy day of a 430 kcal/cup food). Would I have to feed significantly less? In the summer, when he's swimming a ton, he can even get as much as 3/4 cup per day.
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