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The goal is to make this dog put this ball in this hoop. Or any ball.
![]() I'm having trouble shaping this, any tips? I totally shaped Arnolds Flyball run which meant taking a ball hating, non retriever and clicking him for every step of the way but I'm not sure how to shape a dog to put her highest reward (any balls) in this hoop.
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Will she put it in your hand? If so I would put my hand in the hoop and have her drop it and then slowly fade out your hand. That's not exactly shaping though....
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That's a good idea. Plus, it might help to teach it first with a different object that she doesn't want to hang onto so much.
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I'll give that a try, she does out into my hand. I would like to try something else but she's either a love and get possessive dog or a must be convinced to pick it up dog.
Thanks guys!
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What if you shaped the behavior with something she finds less desirable, and then convinced her to do it with her ball?
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I did the put the toys away thing first with Kimma bringing me whatever and dropping it on my lap. That was easy to shape. Then I put the basket I wanted her to put the toys in on my lap. Then moved it off my lap but sat on the floor next to it, then I kneeled down next to it, eventually stood up, and THEN I started fading out the treats. If that makes sense. I know the hoop is a bit different (taller than my basket!) but I wonder if you could do something similar to what I did? Along with maybe using a less-desirable item
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I was working on this (put away your toys) for a little bit with Romeo. I have trouble getting him to pick up and hold things though..so I basically settled on whatever toy he was interested in at the moment.
I literally used a low toy bucket...would throw the toy, he would come back to give it to me, I was kneeling with the bucket in front of me. He naturally spits it out, I was clicking when it went in the bucket. Then I moved off to the side a little bit..encouraged to go to the bucket..and he would spit the toy in the bucket. I can't even say how I got it, but he just caught on. But thanks to my wonderful click timing I did get the most solid 'put your two front feet in the bucket' trick ever first . And even now he will spit it in the bucket and put his feet in too. But, like I said, he doesn't like to do this with other toys so I've really put it on the back burner. I was thinking that didn't really help, but typing it out maybe you want to start with an easier 'hoop'. The low, wide bucket..to a narrower bucket..raise it...etc.
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Any luck with this?
I've been practicing on and off here. It really gives you a good perspective on how badly dogs generalize. He will mostly put balls in the bucket, and he's starting to pick up whatever I ask him to, but is having difficulty crossing over to putting other objects in the bucket. Just time and repetition I think, it's not an easy trick!
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