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Old 04-16-2012, 09:50 AM
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If I were you, I'd stay far, far away from lines that multiple people mention having ETS (i.e. HN in this thread) - it's just not worth risking with a dog that has so many hopes riding on it imo.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:25 PM
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Or Spy's breeder, because Spy is THE HANDSOMEST Border Collie.
She's not breeding anymore! I am so bummed about it.

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I have heard that HN is run by a crazy lady... from many, many BC people. I would stay far away from her based on her reputation and the fact that, quality or not, she's running a BC puppy mill with all of those litters and dogs!
I don't know about the looks part but I agree with this and have heard about her reputation before, too.

I am interested to hear so much good stuff about CP border collies. I am hoping for a pup in the next two years and am already trying to feel out some breeders. CP was on my list of potentials but after hearing all the positive stuff about them in this thread I think I'm going to look into them a lot more.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:00 PM
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Aww for real? Spy is, like, the perfect medium between rangy, wild-eyed working BC and fluffy, pretty show BC... he has the best eyes ever. I'm all about the eyes. And it literally looks like you straighten his hair for hours! I love him. <3

We MUST get a CP puppy together!!! 2 years sounds about right. My GSD puppy will be 2 by then. I really want a different colored BC, like a blue merle or a sable merle.
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I've seen a couple HN dogs around and they've seemed nice enough, but I wouldn't go there for a puppy. Plus, aren't they super expensive?

I'd totally consider a CP dog, though.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:11 PM
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I've seen a couple HN dogs around and they've seemed nice enough, but I wouldn't go there for a puppy. Plus, aren't they super expensive?

I'd totally consider a CP dog, though.
From my limited experience with HN dogs, they are expensive and seemingly very hard to get (waiting lists, etc..)

*shrug* their dogs seem nice and it does seem like have a strong support system and group picnics and that kind of fun stuff.. but I feel like there are lots of great breeders out there
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:16 PM
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Plus, aren't they super expensive?
According to their website they are $1500 for a pup w/ a spay/neuter mandate + whatever it costs you to get the hips X-rayed at 25 months and send copies of the rads to the breeder and OFA.

But yeah I just get a really "ick" vibe from Hob Nob. Not one thing in particular just...a general vibe I do not like.
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If this is a concern, and I can see why it would be. Why not look for a young adult, either failed breeder dogs or rescues? That way you could have them fully checked out and know what you are getting. Many amazing (really amazing!) agility dogs around here have come from the BC rescue. The rescue here often has young athletic dogs needing homes. Sport would (will?) make a kick butt agility dog and we got him when he was 11 months.
That would be the smart thing and it is an option but I really really like raising my own puppies and I am not sure I'd give that up for competition. It just comes down to the fact that the three dogs we've gotten as adults from breeders, I feel like I could have molded them a little more into what I like in a dog to live with.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys and keep them coming!

I do think I will be checking out adults from breeders though.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:29 PM
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That would be the smart thing and it is an option but I really really like raising my own puppies and I am not sure I'd give that up for competition. It just comes down to the fact that the three dogs we've gotten as adults from breeders, I feel like I could have molded them a little more into what I like in a dog to live with.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys and keep them coming!

I do think I will be checking out adults from breeders though.
I saw a cool new rescue BC over the weekend in agility...was going to try to get a pic of him on Sunday to send you but turns out they were only entered Saturday...dog was just drop dead gorgeous lol. Traditional b/w, fine-boned but not wispy, gorgeous angles and movement, that straight flat nice feathered coat, handsome face, Either a tall 16" or a short 20" jumping dog, can't remember which...<3
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CP dogs are usually 2k out the gate, if you're worried about cost.
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Cost isn't a huge concern however I'd have to be really really sure that was the best breeder for me to spend any more than I spent on Mia on another dog.
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