Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dog News and Articles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:41 AM
Kat09Tails's Avatar
Kat09Tails Kat09Tails is offline
*Now with Snark*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upper Left hand corner, USA
Posts: 3,367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin View Post
All the show people I know are praising that article.

http://www.bestinshowdaily.com/blog/...-purebred-dog/
Sometimes you can be too close to a problem to think objectively about it. I saw an interview today where the breeder of the BOB clumber claimed her dog didn't have entropion when I can see it in the video. Was her eyes the worst I've ever seen in a clumber? No, but it was there. Her claim was visible haw is allowed within the breed by standard which is true but also within the standard is the line: free from obvious eye problems.

Funny enough the pug made it through as did the crested. I'd love to see pics of those dogs.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:44 AM
Dizzy's Avatar
Dizzy Dizzy is offline
Sit! Good dog.
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wales
Posts: 17,693
Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYg5D...e_gdata_player
__________________
"Dogs are our link to paradise. They do not know jealousy or discontent. To sit with a dog on a hillside on a glorious afternoon is to be back in Eden, where doing nothing wasn't boring, it was peace."


Bodhi is the opposite of ignorance, the insight into reality which destroys mental afflictions and brings peace.

Owned by Bodhi Booglaoo and Fredington Holbein


Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:45 AM
Laurelin's Avatar
Laurelin Laurelin is offline
I'm All Ears
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 29,943
Default

Here's the pug:

__________________
Mia CGC - (5 year old Papillon)
Hank - (approx. 10 month old Spotty Dog)
Summer TG3 TIAD - (10 year old Papillon)
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:45 AM
Shai's Avatar
Shai Shai is offline
& the Muttly Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,120
Default

The interview mentioned above is here, for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ubTC...&feature=share

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kat09Tails
Sometimes you can be too close to a problem to think objectively about it.
I think you nailed it on the head here.
__________________

ARCHX U-CD Kim MX MXJ NF CL3-SF RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Golden Ditzhund, b. ~Mar'07
MACH ARCHX U-CD Webster MXB MJB RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Flying Houdini, b. ~Jun'07
Mira CD JH MX MXB MXJ MJB CGC WCX -- Princess Cheeseface, b. Jul'09
Lodin -- Crazy Monkeybean, b. Dec'13
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:48 AM
Shai's Avatar
Shai Shai is offline
& the Muttly Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,120
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin View Post
Here's the pug:

From people who were at the show (not "Pug People") I have been hearing that other than the extremely short muzzles, the Pugs looked more moderate than they've ever seen them, and that they enjoyed watching the breed this year.

Though an Izzy the Wonderpug fitness routine wouldn't hurt him one bit. I guess not everyone can be a Wonderpug.
__________________

ARCHX U-CD Kim MX MXJ NF CL3-SF RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Golden Ditzhund, b. ~Mar'07
MACH ARCHX U-CD Webster MXB MJB RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Flying Houdini, b. ~Jun'07
Mira CD JH MX MXB MXJ MJB CGC WCX -- Princess Cheeseface, b. Jul'09
Lodin -- Crazy Monkeybean, b. Dec'13
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 03-10-2012, 09:48 AM
Laurelin's Avatar
Laurelin Laurelin is offline
I'm All Ears
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 29,943
Default

And Crested: http://crufts.fossedata.co.uk/Breed....Y&ScheduleID=8
__________________
Mia CGC - (5 year old Papillon)
Hank - (approx. 10 month old Spotty Dog)
Summer TG3 TIAD - (10 year old Papillon)
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 03-10-2012, 10:03 AM
MandyPug's Avatar
MandyPug MandyPug is offline
Sport Model Pug
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern Alberta
Posts: 5,252
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai View Post
From people who were at the show (not "Pug People") I have been hearing that other than the extremely short muzzles, the Pugs looked more moderate than they've ever seen them, and that they enjoyed watching the breed this year.

Though an Izzy the Wonderpug fitness routine wouldn't hurt him one bit. I guess not everyone can be a Wonderpug.
His head is certainly the most moderate I've seen in a long time and he's not quite as straight in the rear as I've seen lately. He's most certainly obese though.

There is only one Wonder Pug, and she'd be laughed out of the show ring (heck she was pretty much laughed out of our conformation handling class when I was clear that I was just using her to learn on so i could handle other peoples' dogs).
__________________

Izzie the Wonderpug RA AGIS AGJIS MADC AGDC MSDC CGN

The Proudest Pug
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 03-10-2012, 10:07 AM
Beanie's Avatar
Beanie Beanie is offline
Clicker Cult Coordinator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Illinois
Posts: 13,576
Default

Wonder if it's time to start up an e-mail campaign to AKC. On one hand I can understand the criticism. I don't like the "fifteen targeted breeds" thing, I think it implies some particularly harsh things about those breeds and glosses over problems in other breeds. I also can't exactly disagree that now people will go "See??? PUREBRED DOGS ARE UNHEALTHY. This proves it!" I also would be lying if I didn't say I could see some slippery slope stuff going on here.

But at the same time I think it's a lovely step in the right direction. And also think people are completely kidding themselves if they REALLY think judges are truly looking at a ring to honestly put up the best example of the breed. There's a reason handlers tend to be more successful than owner-exhibitors and it's not because they have more skill - it's because they have a recognizable face. "Expert judges?" Experts in what? They're an expert in how THEY interpret a standard. That's it.

Boy, I can't wait for Louisville now... guess I know what everybody will be talking about...
__________________


Auggie - The Flash RN NAJ MXP MJP CGC
Payton - Sharp Dressed Man NA NAJ CGC
Pepper - Chocolate Swizz-l-icious
& the pest, Georgie - Peach Pudding N Pie OA OAJ
The Sheltiechick Blog
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 03-10-2012, 10:14 AM
Dekka's Avatar
Dekka Dekka is offline
Just try me..
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 19,512
Default

That blog post is deleting posts that say, even reasonable things that are 'pro' testing at shows.
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 03-10-2012, 10:22 AM
Laurelin's Avatar
Laurelin Laurelin is offline
I'm All Ears
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 29,943
Default

The peke one?

I can see the slippery slope argument but I really think people are being paranoid. There is a big difference between looking at a dog and seeing if they have obvious health problems and then ending all breeds because they're all exaggerated to some extent. At any rate if people still want to breed these breeds in an unhealthy manner they can do so, the KC just will not be putting up their dogs at the top shows. I think the idea that 'omg, this is the end of everything!' is hysteria. Oh no, they are doing something different.

I'd like to see them do health screenings on all breeds at all big shows at the least.

Then again I am the kind of person that would love to see a change to my own breed's standard to DQ the tiny dogs - put in a minimal weight. And I think a vet looking at the winner's patellas and feeling for slippage would be a good thing.

I do wonder what they will do with breeds like the cavalier that are in dire health predicaments but are fairly moderate in phenotype.
__________________
Mia CGC - (5 year old Papillon)
Hank - (approx. 10 month old Spotty Dog)
Summer TG3 TIAD - (10 year old Papillon)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:56 PM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site