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Are they not allowing any of each breed not make it to Group, or just the single dog? What I mean are they checking the "runners up"?
As far as I can tell, they only check out the BOB and if the BOB fails, they strip the BOB and no dog from that breed goes to group.
I would rather them take a look at the BOS and if THAT dog passes, give that dog BOB and put that one up in group... but I suppose you're getting into sticky stuff then.


Maybe dogs should all have to pass a qualified independent veterinary exam before they even get into the ring instead.
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One show isn't going to change a few hundred years of ingrained culture, but it's a start.

I like how they're doing it. It forces judges to put up good dogs, or better at least. Not so freakish. If they don't, they just get dq'ed and there is no do over. Sure i'd love to test them all, but then you start to run into real logistical problems. Just testing the best in breed is fine with me, in time it will force judges to put up more correct dogs.
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Irish Water Spaniel just won the Gundog group!
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Old 03-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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As far as I can tell, they only check out the BOB and if the BOB fails, they strip the BOB and no dog from that breed goes to group.
I would rather them take a look at the BOS and if THAT dog passes, give that dog BOB and put that one up in group... but I suppose you're getting into sticky stuff then.
Just keep in mind this is a first iteration. Tweaking in the future would be expected. I'm just glad they are trying something.

By the way I do happen to agree that the BOS should get a shot to pass the exam if the BOB fails. And hopefully what they learn this year will allow them to do a better job next year in terms of scope, accountability, etc.
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I think it's a start. I'm hoping it will promote some real change.
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Man, folks are up in arms. Buck up and breed healthier dogs. I for one am against a lot of controls when it comes to breeding dogs, but you've got to have your head far under the sand to disregard the problems affecting purebred dogs these days.
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This just came across my Facebook - I can't tell you how much this disappoints me.


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A note from Dennis Sprung (AKC President) regarding the outrageous actions of the KC at Crufts today:
From: Dennis Sprung [mailto[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 5:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fw: Any advice for Bulldog Club of America (BCA) and the other targeted breeds??

Pat, my response to staff is below and I am sending to you for PCs to know what is going on as emails and texts are flying (Unfortunately tonight BOB was also taken away from the Clumber Spaniel).
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From: Dennis Sprung
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 08:44 AM
To: Robin Stansell; Sheila Goffe; Margaret Poindexter; John Lyons
Cc: Gina DiNardo
Subject: Re: Any advice for Bulldog Club of America (BCA) and the other targeted breeds??

We should prepare a statement after all facts are in. However you can assure and share with everyone that AKC will NEVER allow any such practice to occur. Our Parent Clubs own their respective standard and we support them 100 percent. Furthermore a Judges' decision is final and we respect that as well. The situation is a very disappointing one here from the point of view of breeders, exhibitors and judges and fanciers from around the world. In summary while our PCs have a right to be upset and concerned I will never allow this wrongful practice in America. Never!!! Dennis
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From: Robin Stansell
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 08:30 AM
To: Sheila Goffe; Margaret Poindexter; John Lyons; Dennis Sprung
Subject: Any advice for Bulldog Club of America (BCA) and the other targeted breeds??

The Bulldog & Peke were eliminated from advancing beyond BOB because of the mandatory vet inspection of these "targeted" breeds:
Basset Hound, Bloodhound, Bulldog, Chow Chow, Clumber Spaniel, Dogue De Bordeaux, German Shepherd Dog, Mastiff, Neapolitan Mastiff, Pekingese, Shar Pei, St Bernard, French Bulldog, Pug and Chinese Crested.
See: http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4199/23/5/3

1. Do we have any advice concerning information for these parent clubs in the US regarding this practice?
2. Will AKC address this issue?

Respectfully,

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This just came across my Facebook - I can't tell you how much this disappoints me.
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Thing that kills me is, if a dog with entropion or any other medical issue is the best the breed has to offer that day...

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