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Old 02-11-2012, 12:44 PM
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IDK, DH heard it Thursday on the radio. A very popular talk radio show on a very popular talk radio station in Chicago played the entire audio of it in their "Top 5 at 5" during drive time...
Yes people could talk about it, but they wouldn't be seeing it. Seeing it fuels the discussion which creates more interest in seeing it and it continues.

If he had taken it down early this would be a non issue, heck if he took it down today it would die off pretty quick.

I think he is enjoying the attention to be honest.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:49 PM
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Yes people could talk about it, but they wouldn't be seeing it. Seeing it fuels the discussion which creates more interest in seeing it and it continues.

If he had taken it down early this would be a non issue, heck if he took it down today it would die off pretty quick.

I think he is enjoying the attention to be honest.
That is a really big assuption. If that was the case then he would accept the requests to be on talk shows that he has had, or be on the radio or so on. I think it was a lesson he was trying to teach his daughter, just as he said it was easier to upload to u-tube then to face book. I upload things to photobucket before putting them on facebook because it is easier as well. I don't think he knew it was going to go viral. And even then I think it is a good lesson for other kids to learn from. So I don't see the need for him to take it down.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:00 PM
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Yes people could talk about it, but they wouldn't be seeing it. Seeing it fuels the discussion which creates more interest in seeing it and it continues.
The audio I believe is still on their site, they have pod casts on their shows, there is record of it because their show is also televised. My point is, once it's out there, it's out there. This again is a good take home lesson about putting stuff of the internet--lol.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:02 PM
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Did anyone read his later post? He was raised the same way - humiliate someone in public, pay the price in public..
Yep, and he also mentions he was on his own and out of the house at 15...so dont think it worked as well as he thinks.

Teens are reselient and kids naturally love their parents regardless of all the crap they do. Often, the "worse" the parents almost more fervent the children are later in life defending their parents actions.

I dont know anything about the relationship between these two. My assumption based on the video is that there is a severe lack of respect and communication...but I KNOW that is a total assumption and I fervently hope its wrong.

The video itself does not bother me near as much as all the people thinking its a GOOD example of how to parent. That is what hurts and devastates me. The father is acting like the immature brat he is ranting about. Is it a human failing to react...yep. I have often said and down things I later look back at and cringe...nobody is perfect and parenting is fraught with mistakes. HOwever, I do not understand how this total parenting mistake (IMO) is being hailed as some kind of parenting battle cry. That is what bothers me.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:15 PM
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Yep, and he also mentions he was on his own and out of the house at 15...so dont think it worked as well as he thinks.

Teens are reselient and kids naturally love their parents regardless of all the crap they do. Often, the "worse" the parents almost more fervent the children are later in life defending their parents actions.

I dont know anything about the relationship between these two. My assumption based on the video is that there is a severe lack of respect and communication...but I KNOW that is a total assumption and I fervently hope its wrong.

The video itself does not bother me near as much as all the people thinking its a GOOD example of how to parent. That is what hurts and devastates me. The father is acting like the immature brat he is ranting about. Is it a human failing to react...yep. I have often said and down things I later look back at and cringe...nobody is perfect and parenting is fraught with mistakes. HOwever, I do not understand how this total parenting mistake (IMO) is being hailed as some kind of parenting battle cry. That is what bothers me.
I think the reaction is due to people being fed up with wishy-washy, make endless excuses, be your kids best friend, be the cool parent, give your kids whatever they want, let them do whatever they wish on the internet without consequences (even though there will be in the real world), let your kids express themselves freely (which is not bad in itself) even if that means allowing them to run around a restaurant screaming and disturbing everyone else style of parenting that seems to be so popular. Pendulium swinging and all that.

I'm more disturbed by people wishing violence on the guy for shooting a laptop....
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I think the reaction is due to people being fed up with wishy-washy, make endless excuses, be your kids best friend, be the cool parent, give your kids whatever they want, let them do whatever they wish on the internet without consequences (even though there will be in the real world), let your kids express themselves freely (which is not bad in itself) even if that means allowing them to run around a restaurant screaming and disturbing everyone else style of parenting that seems to be so popular. Pendulium swinging and all that.

I'm more disturbed by people wishing violence on the guy for shooting a laptop....
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I think the reaction is due to people being fed up with wishy-washy, make endless excuses, be your kids best friend, be the cool parent, give your kids whatever they want, let them do whatever they wish on the internet without consequences (even though there will be in the real world), let your kids express themselves freely (which is not bad in itself) even if that means allowing them to run around a restaurant screaming and disturbing everyone else style of parenting that seems to be so popular. Pendulium swinging and all that.

I'm more disturbed by people wishing violence on the guy for shooting a laptop....
I will second that
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I think the reaction is due to people being fed up with wishy-washy, make endless excuses, be your kids best friend, be the cool parent, give your kids whatever they want, let them do whatever they wish on the internet without consequences (even though there will be in the real world), let your kids express themselves freely (which is not bad in itself) even if that means allowing them to run around a restaurant screaming and disturbing everyone else style of parenting that seems to be so popular. Pendulium swinging and all that.
I hear about this all the time but honestly, I have met very few of this type of parenting. I think it is often assumed parents are like that when they see the kids at a bratty moment (which happens to us all).
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I think the reaction is due to people being fed up with wishy-washy, make endless excuses, be your kids best friend, be the cool parent, give your kids whatever they want, let them do whatever they wish on the internet without consequences (even though there will be in the real world), let your kids express themselves freely (which is not bad in itself) even if that means allowing them to run around a restaurant screaming and disturbing everyone else style of parenting that seems to be so popular. Pendulium swinging and all that.

I'm more disturbed by people wishing violence on the guy for shooting a laptop....
That's not good parenting either. Too bad the pendulum can't stop swinging wildly and rest somewhere in the middle with a little more common sense parenting; Consequences, reinforcement, alternatives, distractions and lots of love, little in life is free, in other words....earning the goodies, calmness and maturity.

It's the same thing a lot of people say about positive reinforcement training with dogs. "That is just being lenient." Same mistake. It doesn't have to be lenient. It shouldn't be lenient. But it should make good behavioral sense, which this didn't.
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:40 PM
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Well according to the family the daughter is alright and their family is in tact.

Good parenting or bad parenting aside... She obviously has parents who love her. A little embarassment isn't the end of the world.

When i was a kid and we actually hung out with ours friends in person at our homes.... My friends and i were often embarassed when we acted up in front of our friends and our parents gave us heck in front of our friends. No one wanted to get in trouble in front of their friends... It was embarassing but imagine that we all survived and grew up to be relatively normal functioning members of society and some people even still love their parents after it

No not the best moment of parenting ever but its really not THAT bad. My goodness
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