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Old 11-14-2005, 09:45 AM
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Roxy was raised with choke collars and now has a regular collar. When she is in a particular mood I will put a choker on her just for the day and its enough to remind her that I will go back on her training if neccisary. But im also 8 and a half months pregnant and a 50 pound pulling boxer is not the funnest to walk lol
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:20 PM
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There is a harness on the market that is guaranteed to stop any dog from pulling. Comes in 4 different sizes. I've used it and believe me it works. I put it on our Pyrnees who loved to pull and the first time he tried it he stopped dead in his tracks. It causes no discomfort or pain of any kinds. It simply works. Here is the website for more info:

http://www.sporn.com/product_info.php?products_id=28
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:26 PM
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OK here my advice-

Use the pinch collar/choke chain. Have him at heel, then start off with your right foot commanding "heel" If he moves out in front, pull back into position commanding "heel" again, when you stop, stop using left foot, command "heel" as you stop, then command "sit" and praise him. Repeat. The best way to teach is by conditioning or in other words go on a 15 minute walk doing this process throughout. Do this daily until he gets it, and from then on, only expect 110% compliance on "heel" if hes no compliant pull back and command heel.

Also you may want to invest in a heeling stick. Using this, command heel, if he goes out in front, tap his chest, this will automatically cause him to reheel to turn off the pressure. Keep the stick over your shoulder so you already have a good swing and he will get it out of nowhere because he does not see it coming until he has moved out in front. This usually takes one to two sessions before he complies.

Halters in my opinion only do harm in obedience, they should only be used if the dog has successfully completed ALL obedience commands and is well socialized, and ignores distractions. IE an older well trained dog. If there is no pressure the dog will only fight you and you'll end up popping pain relievers from the headache.

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Old 11-14-2005, 04:59 PM
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again agreeing with GSDMom, a choke collar could be horrible if not used with maximum care. when I said I used it..ALONG with training...it was always with extreme caution. I'd never let my dog lunge, choke horribly, or chance hurting their neck in any way!
How do you know if your dog is going to lunge or not? If a cat or something ran 2' in front of you, your dog is going to lunge. You can't prevent it in a situation like that. You can prevent it if they are just bad behaved on the leash, yes, but in a fast reacting, almost emergency situation for your dog, he's going to do what he does naturally, and that is to chase. Few of us have dogs (especially a GSD which as a higher drive to chase than many other breeds) that are so well disciplined that they would NEVER lunge.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:00 PM
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How do you know if your dog is going to lunge or not? If a cat or something ran 2' in front of you, your dog is going to lunge. You can't prevent it in a situation like that. You can prevent it if they are just bad behaved on the leash, yes, but in a fast reacting, almost emergency situation for your dog, he's going to do what he does naturally, and that is to chase. Few of us have dogs (especially a GSD which as a higher drive to chase than many other breeds) that are so well disciplined that they would NEVER lunge.
nah...no cats or dogs around here. I don't especially agree that GSDs have a higher drive to chase than other breeds. if you want to state your fact, then fine...no need to be extra dramatic. I understand your point, and it is a good one.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:55 AM
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I don't think I was being over dramatic. Animals crossing your path on a walk are a reality not a dramatization. Maybe not where you live, but here, and for many other people, it's not uncommon to encounter other animals where lunging could be a factor.

Why do you not think a GSD doesn't have more prey drive than other breeds? I'm not saying they are more driven than all breeds, but they are more driven than most. I guess it depends on the breeding too, you can have a GSD that has most of the traits the breed was designed for bred out of them by people who want a dog that stacks good but has nothing else to offer to the tradition of the breed.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:43 AM
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Gaddylovesdogs said it best. You need to stop and correct the behavior IMMEDIATELY when it occurs. Then praise / treat him when he does the right thing.

You'd be amazed at how quickly dogs pickup these things with just a little bit of repetition.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:46 AM
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Aspen No Pull Harness, I use it on my gsd's and I train them at the same time. I am able to safely walk two big gsd's in the heal position using the no pull harness.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:07 AM
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This is probably a dumb question, but let's say he starts pulling, you stop and wait. How long do you wait? Do you put the dog in a sit/stay, or start walking again as soon as he stops pulling. I have saw this done on TV and it looks so easy, but it's hard for me to keep consistent. Do you think an older dog could learn this?
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:37 AM
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I don't think I was being over dramatic. Animals crossing your path on a walk are a reality not a dramatization. Maybe not where you live, but here, and for many other people, it's not uncommon to encounter other animals where lunging could be a factor.

Why do you not think a GSD doesn't have more prey drive than other breeds? I'm not saying they are more driven than all breeds, but they are more driven than most. I guess it depends on the breeding too, you can have a GSD that has most of the traits the breed was designed for bred out of them by people who want a dog that stacks good but has nothing else to offer to the tradition of the breed.
I choose not to breed alligator dogs, but beautiful family companions
with correct conformation, Dogs that can be trusted with children
my dogs do obedience, and have tons of drive
they are protective of their property
and that is the kind of GSD I want living in my home
to each his own
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