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Old 11-06-2005, 05:17 PM
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Angry Texas Wolves???

WTF? Theyre PURPOSELY breeding wolves with malamutes??



http://www.texaswolves.com/CWDDen_page01.htm
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Wolves have been deliberately bred to dogs for many years. The resulting "wolfdog" is suppossed to look like a wolf, but have the manners of a dog.

WRONG! SOOO WRONG!

Here is a fact that I do not mention much, just because I don't want people to think that I support it in any way: my last dog, Odin, I usually call a rott/husky mix. Well, his mother was actually a husky/wolf hybrid. I learned a lot about wolf hybrids because of Odin. Here are a few myths and truths about wolf hybrids:

"All dogs are wolves under the skin"--wrong. It took people thousands of years of work to develop our domestic dogs. Wolves and dogs have drastically different temperaments. Adult wolves are suspicious, dominant, defensive and potentially aggressive. When we domesticated the dog, we essentially kept them in a permanant juvenille state. Hence, pups and juvenille wolves act just like dogs, which makes them very appealing. Many wolfdogs owners are even able to take their young animals to the dog park. But once the adult temperament sets in, all bets are off.

"If I get it as a very young puppy, and train it like a dog, and raise it like a dog, it will act just like a dog"---Wrong. Wolves aren't made that way by their environment, they're like that genetically. Doesn't matter how you raise it, if your puppy inherited the right wolf genes, it will become a wolf when it reaches maturity.

Most reputable wolfdog breeders keep their hybrids EXACTLY like they do in zoos: outdoors, in packs, and behind high fences. They are not meant to be housepets.

I learned all this through extensive research. I had to have Odin PTS when he became adult, and it was apparant that he had a strong wolf temperament. It wasn't his fault, he can't help the way he was born. I still agonize over what I did to this day.

On a sidenote, not all wolfdogs are like that. If a wolfdog inherited a dog's temperament, it will be fine. I know several wolfdogs who act just like the german shepherd next door. But it's a genetic roulette. It can't be influenced by socializing, training, or anything like that. If your puppy has the wolf temperament, there's nothing you can do. You can't train it out: you can only live with it. If you're an educated owner and are prepared for that eventuality, that's fine. But if you're not, there's a huge problem.

Don't believe the stuff the breeders say about it being just like a dog. I know better.

Oh, and a prize to Nedim! He found the one subject that really gets me going!
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:58 PM
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Beautiful animals....but sad sad business to see..... very wrong.....
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:15 PM
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I'm not sure what their aim is...why don't they spend their time in a more effective and ecologically sound manner by helping to selectively breed those wolf populations (McKenzie valley, Timber, Canadian, etc) back into stable populations instead of diluting what may very well be rare bloodlines? I could see maybe creating a sled pack out of them, as the weather and terrain wouldn't bother them a bit...

And if that's not a run-on sentence, I don't know what is....
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:07 PM
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My very first dog was born in northern area of Ontario in 1927....obvious not by a breeder in a small gold mining area !! He was supposedly 1/2 GS and 1/2 wolf. A lovely family dog. But !!! It should be planned breeding today !
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:42 PM
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There have been dogs bred like this for years. I large percent of Sled dogs have wolf blood in them my father owned a few hybrids in his time. They made a more harsh worker but trainable like a dog. They were for my family far from pets not that they can't be friendly but some are alittle iffy. I don't promote purposely breeding these hybrids.
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:49 PM
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Many people do this now - mixing wolves with "wolflike" breeeds - Huskies, Malamutes, Akitas, German Shepherds.... I think it's stupid and I think it's wrong. Wolves are wild animals, not pets.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:22 AM
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My dog that passed away recently was 1/2 gsd and 1/2 wolf, but his birth took place in the wild and had no human interferance. Its so wrong to interfere and breed hybrids and then sell them to uninformed ppl just to make a buck. I contacted the breeder and "expressed" my dissaproval of her business.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:38 AM
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Im sorry, that is just wrong. Really wrong.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:40 AM
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She replied to my email. What an immature person, I hope her dogs eat her.lol
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