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Old 12-17-2013, 05:07 PM
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I'd like to breed in the future, if all goes as planned. But I'd also like to foster pregnant females or females with litters already on the ground, as there is a large need for knowledgeable fosters for them in my area. I'm worried that I won't be able to do both (well, not as much worried but sad) as the rescues/shelters around here are so very anti breeder, even when its done right. I've got a great plan (one id be more then happy to go into if you all would like) , but I'm worried that as soon as I tell them I have intact dogs they will simply say "no thanks" Suggestions? Have any breeders here also worked with a rescue as well?
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:00 PM
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It's pretty sad isn't it? My female Shiba was never spayed, never had an unplanned litter either in 15 years, just shortly after we got. age they were looking for a bitch with milk to nurse some pups, Ruffian bagged up every single heat so I offered, they turned me down because gage wasn't neutered yet...I had had him 3 weeks tops.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:13 PM
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Unfortunately there is a rift. Too many people think dogs are an all or nothing type deal and that just isn't helpful to anyone. Possibly look in to specific breed rescue? I know with Whippets, dogs are frequently pulled from shelters and fostered by breeders and owners who support responsible breeders.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:48 PM
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I'd look into private rescues as opposed to shelters or humane societies. I know quite a few who would be thrilled to have someone with experience to take in females with litters, and who have no issues with breeders.
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Old 12-17-2013, 09:28 PM
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I third the suggestion of trying a breed specific rescue or at least an open minded, knowledgeable private. I know with my breed rescue, they rely heavily on involved breeders for transporting, fostering, and many have rescue ESs as well.
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:02 PM
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I do some work for all-breed rescues, or pull strings with contacts in other organizations when I need the help... like the time I saw a momma with 7 puppies that needed to be pulled.

The way I look at it... if I provide a good home for a puppy from a breeder and I have a specific reason for getting a puppy instead of getting a rescue then what's so wrong about that? Finding what fits and what is needed is the best way to ensure a good home. I almost always look through rescue first and then if I can't find what I'm looking for then I went to the breeder route.

I think as long as we're fighting the good fight we're all entitled to have some dogs that are from breeders. In my house we currently have 3 animals from breeders (1 dog and 2 rabbits) and 2 "rescues" (retired racer who isn't really a rescue just adopted, and 1 rabbit who was found outdoors to fend for herself). We also have plenty of foster animals come through. I foster animals if I see them in need (though that's a main reason I don't surf on Kijiji anymore) and through the local humane society. My work does several fundraisers every year for the local humane society to which I always volunteer lots of my own time.

If a rescue can't appreciate having the extra volunteer time simply because you don't have the mind set of "everyone should get every animal from a rescue, breeding is horrible" then that's their loss. Move on and find another group that will be happy to have your time!
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:32 PM
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I've found specific breed rescue are a lot more in tune with what a good breeder is and where rescues tend to come from (BYB, mills, idiots etc).
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I'd look into private rescues as opposed to shelters or humane societies. I know quite a few who would be thrilled to have someone with experience to take in females with litters, and who have no issues with breeders.
This. Honestly, most people I know who are involved in rescue also have intact dogs at home.
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Some people will absolutely disregard you.

Some won't. It's going to completely depend on your area and the people in it. I have fostered for 2 rescues that allowed me to have intact animals and they completely understood why and trusted that I wasn't some crazy backyard breeder. I was turned down by many others for the reason that they were intact.

There's a german shepherd rescue a town over that I work with and donate a lot to - I know the owner through GSDs/training - She is a breeder and rescues as well, so someone like her would have no problem letting a dog/litter be placed with a responsible owner of intact dogs. I love her program and really admire her- They adopt out about 10 GSDs a month and transport many all the way from california. She runs a boarding kennel and keeps all of the dogs right at her place in the kennels while they get out for a lot of training, play time with each other, and socialization. The best part is since she's really involved in the dog breeding/training world, she's very knowledgable and places dogs very well. I only know of one dog that has been returned to her and judging by the owners he was adopted to, it was not her fault for his poor placement- it was their wishy washy attitude towards rehoming dogs.

Good luck finding a good place to work with - and don't get discouraged if some turn you down. If they're that uneducated and biased, you probably don't want to volunteer with them anyway.
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Well, after a frustrating experience with a local rescue, and talking with a few breeders, I've created a fb group to help bring rescuers and ethical breeders together. If anyone is interested in joining search "Breeder Rescue Alliance" on fb
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