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Old 10-01-2011, 11:50 AM
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But if this is person I think it is they post pic thread after pic thread of their dogs, but never seem interested in anyone else's dogs. That to me shows what sort of a person someone is. If you join a forum of dog lovers, but all you care about is bragging about your dogs, then to me (JMO) you aren't a dog lover.

Don't get me wrong, I love to brag with t he best of them, but I also love hearing about and seeing everyone else's dogs and show that by participating in other people's threads.
I assume it is that person as they stupidly and proudly put their real name in their thread recently. I don't see why people keep replying to brag after brag as they never ever post in anyone else's threads. Sadly there's a handful of people like that.

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Animals fail fast, leaving them for several days is not okay just because none have died yet.

Is it a money issue? Can people not afford pet sitters? Maybe they should cut down the number of animals they have to feed as a money saving effort?
I'd think for how much this person seems to compete, they could compete less and easily afford a sitter.
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:55 AM
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I would never leave my dogs overnight, but I have left my cats. Honeslty, now I am wondering what the difference is? Both could get suddenly sick or injured etc. It seems pretty common for people to leave cats....but I can figure out why I felt that was ok and not dogs? I mean the main reason was potty breaks, going outside...but if thats a non issue, what else is there?
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:31 PM
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I would never leave my dogs overnight, but I have left my cats. Honeslty, now I am wondering what the difference is? Both could get suddenly sick or injured etc. It seems pretty common for people to leave cats....but I can figure out why I felt that was ok and not dogs? I mean the main reason was potty breaks, going outside...but if thats a non issue, what else is there?
What I came up with is that animals in their usual settings (eg my rabbit stays in her building, llamas in their pen, cats in the house) and also those animals aren't really emotionally dependent on people. (well mine haven't been)

A dog is going to be upset because it's having to relieve itself inside, it's going to be upset that you're gone and its whole routine is messed up (no exercise, no feeding time etc). So there's an elevated risk that it's going to do something abnormal out of stress/boredom (start chewing on the kennel chainlink). Also, even if the dog isn't stressed out, the area it's in is most likely provisional, since you don't want your house messed in, so it isn't very tried and true.

Cats, rabbits llamas just do their thing as usual. Their environment hasn't changed, their schedule has hardly changed or not changed at all and your presence really isn't a biggie to them lol.
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Old 10-01-2011, 12:55 PM
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But its a legitimate question, if it was a cat left alone for a day who died, would we be having the same discussion?

My neighbor boarded her dogs last time she went out of town, but still had me go check on the cats every day. She filled food and water bowls and had several litterboxes out, so I didn't have to "do" anything, but still had me check on them daily.

When another friend of mine goes off for the weekend, I go check on the horses - she leaves hay out and they're in a big, nice pasture, with automatic waterer, but like we joke, I go and check for 4 legs and 2 eyes on each of them.

Yet plenty of people would not think twice about leaving a horse or a cat for more than 24 hours and all sorts of things could happen there too. Air goes out in the house, fence breaks for the horse....

I sure would like to know more details. I have a feeling there is a bit more to the story than a dog being left for the weekend - like what's the deal with the "no homeopathic remedies"?
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:06 PM
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I sure would like to know more details. I have a feeling there is a bit more to the story than a dog being left for the weekend - like what's the deal with the "no homeopathic remedies"?
It probably had to do with the 24 hr fasting. Most "scientific" animal husbandry is based on 24 hr cycles. Plop food in the dish at 8 am and 6pm 365 days a year.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:18 PM
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Well, and what if it was a toy dog who was litter box or paper trained in an apt? Would that be ok?

I have no idea as to what happened in this case...but I do wonder why leaving a dog for 24 hours in and of itself requires jail time? I wouldnt do it and dont think its a good idea but...I dont know....just something seems off...there has to be more. Yeah, why no homeopathic remedies? Are they claiming the dog was sick and needed to see a vet? Neglect from that? That worries me if she was doing things, just not "normal" procedures.

My cats are very very much people cats. With the foster here they have been locked upstairs or downstairs for portions of the day when I cant supervise their interactions and they are pissed lol.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:23 PM
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I have no idea as to what happened in this case...but I do wonder why leaving a dog for 24 hours in and of itself requires jail time?
That's what I'm wondering too. If that's the case, a LOT of owners around here would need to go to jail. I mean, they sell automatic dog feeders that are big enough to feed several big dogs for several days. Same with automatic waterers.
Not that I agree with it, but it happens, a lot.

The person in question has been on since this thread was posted, I totally understand not wanting to discuss it, but by the same token, I'm really interested in knowing the rest of the story so to speak.
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Totally seprate from what may or may not happened....

How you leave a dog likely plays a big deal. Sport when he was young, ~ 9 months, was left in a crate for a weekend with no provisions whilst his then owners went away. Luckily a neighbour heard him screaming and saved him. Nothing happened to Sport, the neighbour told the owners to never do that again or they would be reported...

Not that I would do it, but leaving a dog in a kennel run, assuming the dog was used to a kennel run with plenty of water and food and access to some form of climate control is different than leaving a dog in a totally unfamiliar/restrictive way.
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Totally seprate from what may or may not happened....

How you leave a dog likely plays a big deal. Sport when he was young, ~ 9 months, was left in a crate for a weekend with no provisions whilst his then owners went away. Luckily a neighbour heard him screaming and saved him. Nothing happened to Sport, the neighbour told the owners to never do that again or they would be reported...

Not that I would do it, but leaving a dog in a kennel run, assuming the dog was used to a kennel run with plenty of water and food and access to some form of climate control is different than leaving a dog in a totally unfamiliar/restrictive way.
Yes...this is my thought too. I dont like the idea of it, but I dont see leaving say, a livestock guardian dog, or a dog raised or used to a kennel/run as really that much different from leaving a cat or bird or horse or or or.
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Well, and what if it was a toy dog who was litter box or paper trained in an apt? Would that be ok?
And was free fed (so no change of schedule), slept all the time and was pretty indifferent to its owners? Maayyybeee. I'm still not comfortable with the idea but I've never met a dog like that either.

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I have no idea as to what happened in this case...but I do wonder why leaving a dog for 24 hours in and of itself requires jail time? I wouldnt do it and dont think its a good idea but...I dont know....just something seems off...there has to be more. Yeah, why no homeopathic remedies? Are they claiming the dog was sick and needed to see a vet? Neglect from that? That worries me if she was doing things, just not "normal" procedures.
It think it was longer than 24 (two nights, so ~48 hours I guess). But yeah. I don't think there's anything really criminal about leaving a dog for two nights even if I wouldn't do it myself and think it's a bad idea. Same with homeopathic treatments, same with the fasting. (not that I think the latter two are bad ideas necessarily).

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My cats are very very much people cats. With the foster here they have been locked upstairs or downstairs for portions of the day when I cant supervise their interactions and they are pissed lol.
Yes I think that would **** any cat off LOL I know mine would not tolerate being restricted to certain areas of the house (and they let us know). But I really don't think they stressed about our absence.

Roman, if he was left for that long would be like "OK where are they? Where ARE they? Where have they gone? Why aren't they back? Why am I still in this house? Why is there no one to play with???"

The cats, even our most lovey followed-me-to-school cat never seemed stressed or bothered by us going away.
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