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Old 11-03-2005, 03:08 AM
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Just as one Lily problem is ending more are surfacing. I have been obedience training Lily from day one. We have had her almost a month and she still does not grasp the concept of sit! With a treat she will do it but if I tell her without one she just gives me a look like "I don't think so". She is very stubborn and independant at times. She wants to be by me but won't listen I say "Lily, Come" and she will sit down just out of my reach, I say sit and she just stares at me with a wierd expression. I just can't seem to get to her and it's really bugging me. She is not even trying in her puppy school classes and all the other puppy's are way ahead of her. They are all sitting and know the "come" command, and going on to wait and stay and she doesn't even know sit. Housebreaking is going good though, no accidents for 2 weeks now about. She is going out every half hour and is uncrated all day except when we go somewhere or it's bedtime. She is totally disrepecting me and my husband and disobeying basically everything that we tell or ask her to do. You have to really yell and raise your voice to get her to even respond to you and then she's doing it because she's scared and I won't do that only my husband will do that to her. Does anyone have any suggestions we could try for her they'd be really appreciated.
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She wants to be by me but won't listen I say "Lily, Come" and she will sit down just out of my reach, I say sit and she just stares at me with a wierd expression.
Is she afraid to come closer to you? What do you do to try and get her to come closer to you? The weird expression, I can almost guarantee is confusion.

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Well usually my husband doesn't do the training with the dogs. I have trained Hannah myself and she knows come, sit, down, stay, and roll over. We work everyday but I got her to sit and lay down and stay and those are the three most important life savers I think the rolling over is just a bonus and something that she basically learned all her own. My husband has taken a bigger role in the dogs now that I am pregnant so he really doesn't know how to get them to listen. Although usually he just lets them walk all over him and treat him like dirt. So sometimes I think they think of me and him extremely different.


Is there something about my posts you're not understanding? What is it exactly that you were asking? I'm confused. In your first post, it seemed you were having difficulty in teaching her to sit and thought she was disrespecting you and that she didn't obey unless yelled at. You thought she wasn't trying in class. You were at your wit's end.

So, among others who were offering some good ideas, I typed a rather time consuming couple of posts trying to help you with some tried and true scientific learning methods which I have used to train with, which would teach you how to gain her respect and teach you how to motivate her to learn.... and now, on this last post, you're saying that she knows sit, among the the other basic commands. Were my posts and the others unhelpful to you or not needed after all?
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:04 PM
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NO I didn't say LILY knew sit. I said HANNAH knew sit. I have two different dogs. One lab (Hannah) and one standard poodle (Lily). I trained Hannah myself to sit, lay down, stay, and roll over very easily she was very motivated to learn and I had no problems with getting her to learn. I am in the process of teaching Lily to sit as you have and my puppy school trainer has suggested and she's still sort of off on the idea, although today she did do a little better. I always have Lily on a leash during training and if she doesn't come then I will grab her leash get down and say "Lily, come" and give a gentle tug on the leash and then usually she will come to me. She shouldn't be scared of me I have never hit or yelled at her since we got her. I posted that last post to sort of explain why my husband was yelling (he has never trained a dog before and doesn't know what to do). I am training him on the correct way to train her now as well. I do have two different dogs and perhaps you were confused because yes your posts were helpful.
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:40 PM
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I am getting addled in my old age. I knew you had two dogs. Good heavens! Ok...I see now. So, is your husband trainable? LOL. Well, I think Lilly will get it in time. Just make it as fun for her and rewarding as possible....more fun than what she's doing which is keeping her from coming and sitting better. She does sound a little confused right now, but I think she'll get onto it after a while. It does take lots of time and patience to train a dog. Keep us posted on her progress. Best of luck!
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