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Old 09-04-2011, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Aleron View Post

I personally would never trust a highly prey driven sighthound with cats. Indoors many can be fine with cats but outdoors is a different story.
Not sure how this applies to a dog she's going to own with her own cats? Or are we ruling all dogs out because of potential unknown cats?

I wouldn't trust ANY dog with cats outdoors where there are unknown cats and running cats, but I would also suggest dogs should be supervised outdoors.

If you want a drivey dog and are worried about cats, then you're pretty much screwed. ALL the breeds suggested thus far will kill a cat. Even a golden will kill a cat in the right circumstances.

However, it's not impossible to own hounds and cats, as all the whippet/terrier/etc etc dog and cat owners will tell you.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by milos_mommy View Post
The majority of the poodles I know aren't very drivey, but I know if you went to the right breed you could probably find one.
I'd have to disagree with this, as all of the poodles I have met are drivey.

I would say that Miniature Poodles are very drivey. Not overly so (like a terrier), but out of the three sizes I would say they are the driveyest (idk if that's a word). Heck even my puppymill Toy has drive.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:18 AM
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/me agrees with MericoX -- there are a lot of poodles in agility around here (standard, miniature, and toy) and the miniature ones in particular seem to make really nice agility dogs...pretty drivey and fast for their height class, balanced handler/obstacle focus, etc.

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Old 09-04-2011, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by elegy View Post
Shelties have just never appealed to me. At all. Too hairy, too barky, too... I don't know. Something in their expression I guess just turns me off. There are a ton of nice-running shelties at my training club, but I just don't care for 'em.
I highlighted the barking part because I met two Border Staffies at a competition a few weeks ago and they just barked non-freakin'-stop. They were in line in front of Blaze and I and it was seriously the most annoying thing to put up with. They never. shut. up.

This was my first experience with the breed, and it was enough to turn me off. Maybe with some training it would get better, but wow.

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Old 09-04-2011, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Dizzy View Post
They're beautiful dogs and hands down the fastest breed in flyball, but I don't think they'd be a good match for me.

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I highlighted the barking part because I met two Border Staffies at a competition a few weeks ago and they just barked non-freakin'-stop.
Yeah, they're plenty barky at flyball tournaments here, but the people I know that have them say they're not overwhelmingly barky at home. Steve talks a lot at home, and he alarm barks, and that's ok. I just can't deal with a dog who barks for the sheer joy of barking.
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:28 PM
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The border staffies I know at agility are not significant barkers at all. The border jacks and border stacks are more so, but I'm not a tolerant person at all when it comes to barking, and the staffy mix has never bothered me. Granted, the ones I know are all owned by great handlers, so they don't have much to bark about.

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Old 09-04-2011, 03:37 PM
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I think a Poodle (from proper lines) would do well I've seen Poodles do very well at sporty things. If you don't want to do major grooming, you can keep them clipped short.
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dekka View Post
I wouldn't think the RT would be drivey enough if most poodles aren't. I have met some and they are lovely dogs, but not oozing drive. (a dog doesn't need a ton of drive to do well in agility)
It depends on the bloodlines. There are some who are great terrier racers, while others are just so-so. A terrier racer would be drivey enough to do flyball.

My little coated AHTs (basically Rat Terriers) would be awesome flyball dogs if I had a place close to me to train (and this was told to me by flyball people ... not just my opinion!).
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Old 09-04-2011, 04:52 PM
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I don't think racing = drivey. I know many a great racing whippet that I wouldn't call drivey.

Kaiden does quite well at racing and I wouldn't say he's drivey. Snip has won many a champion reserve champ in racing, does well at earth dog but has zero toy drive.

To me a drivey dog has lots of various types of drive. I would call Dekka drivey. She is intense about working for food, prey, chase, and toy. Just because a dog has a decent amount of one type of drivey doesn't mean it will work well. It might, I know quite a few of highly food motivated (only) dogs who do very well in agility. But agility doesn't need that high level of drive for speed that flyball does. I doubt Snip would have done well in flyball. Kaiden likely would have.

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Old 09-04-2011, 05:11 PM
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I say that owning a VERY noisy dog, Backup, some dogs are naturally more barky than others but I don't think as an entire breed the BS are. A lot of it comes with the allotment of flyballers and noise.
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