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Old 10-04-2012, 06:22 PM
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At a certain point you need to know your audience and their history.

After spending years around this stuff, avoiding other forum drama, it's no shock who's defensive of the OP.

Sometimes you just cut the fat out and move forward, giving up convincing the stubborn, and work to prevent a reoccurrence.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:32 PM
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Tahlzk, I have no issue with conviction but when it becomes blind there are issues.

Even as her friend you should be able to see the mounting evidence for what it is. And as her friend I would think you might be concerned the puppy was able to get to this point in her care and what might have allowed her neglect.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:55 PM
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I wish I could've been that puppy's new home.
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Old 10-04-2012, 06:59 PM
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Me too. Thought that from the get go.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:26 PM
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I wish I could've been that puppy's new home.
Same. Totally devoted little boy I just don't get why that isn't something you want. I can get wanting a certain type of personality. But to judge a baby that harsh is just out of my realm of comprehension.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:28 PM
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People who are accused wrongly of something are generally able to overcome it with their strong reputation and a sound argument and evidence in their own defense. They rally and keep moving forward, perhaps a bit the worse for wear, but they survive and bounce back. Their reputations are not destroyed by one or two naysayers, as others are able to see the truth and draw their own conclusions independent of what the whistle-blower is saying.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:29 PM
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To make a baby puppy end up looking like that is sickening. I don't know how you could do that to a baby puppy.
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people who are accused wrongly of something are generally able to overcome it with their strong reputation and a sound argument and evidence in their own defense. They rally and keep moving forward, perhaps a bit the worse for wear, but they survive and bounce back. Their reputations are not destroyed by one or two naysayers, as others are able to see the truth and draw their own conclusions independent of what the whistle-blower is saying.
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Are you proud of yourself RC? Destroying any reputation Teal had?

Her current dogs should stay where they are, they are healthy, they are worked with, they get tons of attention and love. She adores those dogs.
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No, I don't think it's alright to starve one dog but the fact is, even if this did happen, for whatever reason, some one shouldn't be banned from owning dogs for a one time offence. There's no proof her current dogs are neglected so there's no reason she shouldn't own these dogs and more in the future.
This kind of thinking is just as sick as the kind of thinking that can let a baby puppy starve.
“Oh, I know he molested one child, but the other kids in the house are ok.”
“Oh, I know she burns the one kid with cigarettes, but she only burns the youngest, the others are fine.”
“Oh, I know she starved a defenseless puppy, but I’m sure the other dogs are fine with her.”

Yes, to “A Child Called It”. People who abuse animals do not behave and think normally. If they can do it to one animal/person, the others are in equal danger.

It doesn’t do the victims and potential victims any good to stick your fingers in your ears and sing “lalalalala, I can’t hear you” in the face of real evidence of abuse.

Tahlzk, neither you nor Barbara are being good friends. What you’re doing is called enabling and it can be as destructive as doing the abuse yourselves.
A real friend doesn’t excuse and defend indefensible behavior. A real friend takes the sick friend aside, says “what the *bleep* is going on with you?” and gets the friend the help they need. Barring that, they remove any potential victims from their care and tell the friend to get lost until they’re ready to face the music and make real change.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:18 PM
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I wonder what the statute of limitations is...could criminal charges be pressed if the breeder was willing?
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