Returning a dog to the breeder - Questions/Rant

[SkyRock]

Originally Posted by JessLough

To be fair, the email Red Chrome originally posted stated that she dropped the dog off to a new home after picking him up from Teal

Oops! Totally missed that part. Was it clear how long the puppy stayed there? Still, it is impossible for a puppy to get that emaciated in just 2 days.

[Red Chrome]

The puppy went to his forever home from my understanding of the emails.

[Romy]

Originally Posted by SkyRock

Oops! Totally missed that part. Was it clear how long the puppy stayed there? Still, it is impossible for a puppy to get that emaciated in just 2 days.

According to Teal's words in post #50, the puppy was picked up on the 29th which is the day Dianna took those pictures.

[Red Chrome]

Those pics are from the day of his retrieval from Jairi's house.

[Red Chrome]

LoLa just jumped on my head so that means it's bedtime. Good night y'all.

[Barbara!]

Originally Posted by SkyRock

Oops! Totally missed that part. Was it clear how long the puppy stayed there? Still, it is impossible for a puppy to get that emaciated in just 2 days.

No, it's not. If a puppy is lean to begin with, and denied food for two days, depending on the metabolism, a puppy certainly CAN look like that in two days. Their weights fluctuate quite rapidly.

[darkchild16]

So its been pointed out it wasnt even 2 days it was a couple hours. explain that one away?

[Romy]

Originally Posted by Barbara!

No, it's not. If a puppy is lean to begin with, and denied food for two days, depending on the metabolism, a puppy certainly CAN look like that in two days. Their weights fluctuate quite rapidly.

But it wasn't two days. That was day of pickup. There are two days between Teal's most recent pictures (which many people agree don't show a puppy at a healthy weight) and Dianna's pictures.

[TahlzK]

Originally Posted by Barbara!

She gave photos of the puppy's condition while he was with her. We see that he was good while in her care, and bad in the photos taken by the breeder. Make your own deductions from that. But no one here can make such serious accusations on the "proof" the breeder brings to the table when Teal brings just as valid proof. No one here can believe the breeder and then deny Teal...when they both have photographic evidence of the puppy. So, what do we know for sure? He was in good condition in the photos while with Teal... And in bad condition when with the breeder afterwards. Make your own deductions, but no one can accuse Teal of abuse and malnourishment the way RedChrome is doing. She is also shamefully dragging her personal life and children into this. This is obviously a personal agenda and vendetta that RedChrome has against Teal and has NOTHING to do with this **** puppy.

Great post!!

[Romy]

Originally Posted by TahlzK

Great post!!

That post doesn't address the fact that:

A: many people who have seen the pictures DON'T feel that the most recent ones show the puppy in a good weight.

B: We're assuming Dianna and Teal's most recent pics are two days apart based on Teal's word because her's are missing timestamps. I'm willing to give that to Teal, but it would really help her case if they weren't missing. SevinSins explained how she can fix that in his post.

My personal conclusions have NOTHING to do with RC. NOTHING. I have never met her. She's as much of a random internet person as Teal is to me.

They have everything to do with the actual evidence we have so far and with the breeder themselves (who I do know and isn't a random internet person).