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Old 05-26-2011, 02:55 PM
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I was pushed from the time Smudge was 5 months old. Every visit no matter what it was for. So can we make that neuter appointment now. No I told you I show conformation. I need him intact. They'd reply with okay maybe next time. I was harassed about it in three different vets offices. They do push s/n hard in Ontario.
It's definitely pushed pretty hard, which is both good and bad, really.

My vet at my old clinic asked once, and was okay with me waiting until just over a year. She did really push the "omg careful anywhere offleash, unattended around female dogs, don't always trust that the owner says they're spayed" etc etc. Making sure I understood how to keep him safe from breeding, haha.

She didn't bother me about it again until his 4-month visit when we found out about his one testicle being all cryptorchid and stuff. Even then, she was willing to let me wait longer if I wanted and explained the risks, pros/cons etc. But I know others who have been to the same clinic as me, and have had other vet there push the s/n (it's a pretty large practice).

(My vet there was a reputable sheltie breeder, so I'm not surprised she understood benefits of a later s/n.)

Sapphire-Light, sucks that the vets in your area are like that. I'm sure it gos without saying, but don't listen to them. You know better.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:08 PM
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The vet we use is holistic, and they never push spay/neuter.

When we first brought Tucker in (he was 12 weeks old I think) they asked if it was something we were interested in. We explained that he was being shown and if things didn't work out he would eventually be neutered. All of the techs we've spoken with as well as the vets believe in waiting to spay/neuter until dogs are full grown. They also "push" raw diets and holistic brands of food, limited vaccine schedules, etc... so I always feel very comfortable with them.

Same with Emma. She was initially my show prospect and I told them when she was 5 months old that she wasn't going to be spayed unless she wasn't shown. No mention of spaying was made until she was almost a year old and we scheduled the appointment.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:14 PM
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Oh I do have a pushy s/n in Ontario story. Toby (one of my first JRTs) I got from a woman who had gotten him as a puppy and was in waaayyy over hear head when he was 3 months old. He had a retained testicle at that time. The vet had told the owner she NEEDED to fix him ASAP because of it. I took him to the same vet (as they already knew him) they pushed SOOOO hard. Fixing a cryptic dog is much more $$$ and more risky so I told them I would wait for maturity to see if it showed up.

They swore up and down that he NEEDED to be fixed now, and that there was zero chance of it showing up. (hmm that was not what my research showed me) So I left him. The ball showed up at about 10 months and I left that vet.

As far as I can tell there was no health risk leaving him till a year or two to see if it showed up. But they acted like I was the most horrific pet owner in the city for not putting him under the knife ASAP.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:11 PM
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I've shopped around and settled on a nice clinic, with several vets who all share the same philosophy. Is the puppy neutered? No. Are you planning to breed her? Yes, after she's titled and tested. OK, we look forward to watching her grow up. And I never hear about it again. It's kind of refreshing because I've been to several clinics where I was asked at every visit (usually at annual exam, but even got 'reminder cards' in the mail too...).
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Mine always ask. When will you be ready to neuter? Not planning on it. When will you want to breed then?

Usually it's the Vet techs who ask the same questions... my vet is pretty good about letting me do what I want with minimal commentary.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:33 PM
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Oh I do have a pushy s/n in Ontario story. Toby (one of my first JRTs) I got from a woman who had gotten him as a puppy and was in waaayyy over hear head when he was 3 months old. He had a retained testicle at that time. The vet had told the owner she NEEDED to fix him ASAP because of it. I took him to the same vet (as they already knew him) they pushed SOOOO hard. Fixing a cryptic dog is much more $$$ and more risky so I told them I would wait for maturity to see if it showed up.

They swore up and down that he NEEDED to be fixed now, and that there was zero chance of it showing up. (hmm that was not what my research showed me) So I left him. The ball showed up at about 10 months and I left that vet.

As far as I can tell there was no health risk leaving him till a year or two to see if it showed up. But they acted like I was the most horrific pet owner in the city for not putting him under the knife ASAP.
According to my vet when we were discussing options, there's a lot of myth surrounding crypt even in the vet field still. She felt there was some risk in leaving it be, but that ultimately the decision was up to me.

I don't know enough about it to make an informed opinion, even now after researching it a decent deal, but yeah, pushing it that heavily as in your story is kind of nuts for something like crypt. Usually the ball just drops, eventually :P
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:16 PM
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Mine always ask. When will you be ready to neuter? Not planning on it. When will you want to breed then?

Usually it's the Vet techs who ask the same questions... my vet is pretty good about letting me do what I want with minimal commentary.
IME its vet techs too. My vet NEVER gives me a hard time. The few times they hired a new tech I would always be questioned.

Allie>> His lost ball wasn't that far in, it could easily be palpated from where it should be.
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I get harased every time I go.

Blaze is 7, I see no point.

Solo will be, soon. But they tell me every time Im in, send reminder cards. its very annoying
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Thast sad.
Vets here are the opposite, I've had to tell them so many times NO I am not breeding but puppies don't grow in the uterus on their own and I don't NEED to desex her.
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