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Old 05-11-2011, 03:20 PM
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If you look for insults where none are intended you will find them.

Trust me if I was to insult you you would know. I actually find it amusing, so I wasn't insulting you. Just pointing out that either 'a' you are not as confident as you seem, or 'b' you are being really funny. Since I tend to take people at their word... its funny
If you only every have two choices in things then that is black or white thinking. Since nothing I posted was funny, at least not to me and since I am confident in what I am doing and how I train dogs, I do not see how I fall into either catagory. I am not a black or white type person when it comes to things. There is always a grey area.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:31 PM
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Opening your mouth and putting anything out there is to open yourself up to criticism, regardless if you are looking for it or not. Especially on this forum. It's also hard to "just vent" about anything here because everybody is a bucket full of advice and really wants to help, so even when somebody posts "I'm just venting" they still get advice... that's just how it is.

Piece of advice: if you decide to let a topic drop, let it drop. Walk away. Right now you are basically arguing that you aren't going to argue, by which you are still arguing. If you don't feel the need to defend yourself, then stop doing so. It may be the internet but it's not really much different than real life: turn around and walk away, and THAT is how you end an argument.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:32 PM
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Sure there are grey areas. But either you are wiling to try new things and be open minded, or you are not. So we have different senses of humour, good thing as variety is the spice of life. I find this thread really funny. As in a big grin on my face at times. ETA Beanie just pointed out WHY its funny. And just like any joke, once explained looses much of teh funneh.

And some things ARE black and white. Ie yes or no questions.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:36 PM
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ETA Beanie just pointed out WHY its funny. And just like any joke, once explained looses much of teh funneh.
Sorry. D= I ruin EVERYTHING. DANG IT.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:38 PM
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its ok.. :P I still think you are cool Beanie But don't do it again lol !
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:40 PM
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I just don't understand why you are getting so upset.
You posted a thread... people commented. This is what this forum is about.
Nobody attacked you personally, nobody said you weren't a good trainer....and I certainly don't think anybody insulted you in any way.

I have a similar update thread, about service dog training no less. I post updates and people comment with questions, advice or just to offer criticism.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE in my choice of trainers/program, so I answer questions the best I can and even when criticisms are tough or questions are presented that I don't want to answer, I deal with it lol sometimes I deal with it better than other times.
but i've noticed if you answer with grace/knowledge instead of the ever so common "OMG YOU GUYS ARE SO MEAN! I'M DONE WITH THIS!" and the like we see so often on this forum..
your confidence and knowledge in your choice will shine through instead of the drama.

and instead of always being on the defensive, maybe try being a little more open to learning a thing or two. No matter how great of a trainer you are.. new things are always happening and it never hurts to at least be OPEN to new ideas.

just my 2 cents.
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Because every time I step up I get attacked for my position, or it gets twisted, or I get accused.
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My whole life has been one big episode of people telling me how to think, feel, act, live and so on.
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You can turn this into insults all you want(which is exactly how I took you last paragraph) but I will not lower myself to it.
Seriously, loose the martyr mantra. You're not the only one who had a tough life, and you're not the only one who has drama in their life.

YOU are the one starting drama by jumping on every single post in this thread like it was a personal attack (they weren't).
YOU are the one who choses to come on to a heavily PR leaning forum and throw out darts like "I don't believe in training with food" and "I'm going to have a discussion with the trainer about why we should be allowed to correct our dog" (even though everyone else isn't - IOW, you should be given special treatment and special privileges because ???)


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Why do you care if we all discuss (mainly for the lurkers and guests, often of which there are 3x or more as many on chaz as members) why its a bad idea.
THIS. It is a terrible idea to correct a fearful dog for reacting out of fear. That's how you suppress behaviors and how you end up with WORSE problems than what you started with. I see it ALL THE TIME.
I found Chaz through google, and if ONE person pays attention to the folks warning against correcting a fearful dog, its worth it.
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Old 05-11-2011, 04:12 PM
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Seriously, loose the martyr mantra. You're not the only one who had a tough life, and you're not the only one who has drama in their life.

YOU are the one starting drama by jumping on every single post in this thread like it was a personal attack (they weren't).
YOU are the one who choses to come on to a heavily PR leaning forum and throw out darts like "I don't believe in training with food" and "I'm going to have a discussion with the trainer about why we should be allowed to correct our dog" (even though everyone else isn't - IOW, you should be given special treatment and special privileges because ???)



THIS. It is a terrible idea to correct a fearful dog for reacting out of fear. That's how you suppress behaviors and how you end up with WORSE problems than what you started with. I see it ALL THE TIME.
I found Chaz through google, and if ONE person pays attention to the folks warning against correcting a fearful dog, its worth it.
One more time.. but this time it is posted with more passion
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Old 05-11-2011, 04:15 PM
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Fran when i saw this on your tumblr, i knew you were going to find somewhere to use it on here haha.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:16 PM
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Fran when i saw this on your tumblr, i knew you were going to find somewhere to use it on here haha.
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