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Old 10-26-2005, 11:06 PM
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i made the above comment in reply to your insinuation that not everyone is allowed to speak their opinion here on chazhound, which clearly isn't true. however, it is important how you present your argument, and as a moderator i do feel i'm justified to comment on such issues.
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:21 PM
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Again, Mordy... I don't want problems, but I am one to speak my mind. The above statement does not hold true.....just read some threads, even from Rottie(I do love her, but she does start debates.) There has been people who didn't agree, and who were rude, and started crap with her. Just to name one..... So as a moderatator, feel justified in anyway you wish, but don't state that people are "allowed" to speak their mind, and then when they do, bash them, which is what has happened to me (granted, I deserved some of it) but not always, and the others who have spoken and also have been bashed.
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:57 PM
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what do you define as "bashing someone"? people disagreeing? having a different opinion than yours? getting annoyed over rudeness?
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:46 AM
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you now bore me. I did not know you were a mod. until a bit ago....Know I know, and now I know why you are being like you are.
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Old 10-27-2005, 03:01 AM
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so i bore you huh? but apparently you weren't able to answer my questions honestly. not that i expected it, unlike you taking yet another pot shot at me. whatever.
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Old 10-27-2005, 10:01 AM
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so i bore you huh? but apparently you weren't able to answer my questions honestly. not that i expected it, unlike you taking yet another pot shot at me. whatever.

You never bore me Mordy! I like to read your posts and learn great things that I had no clue about. Sure we do not always agree but hey the world would be a pretty dull boring place if everyone always agreed with each other. I think chazhound is a big enough place to handle all kinds of opinions without bashing, name calling and attacking. Disagreeing is not bashing, at least not in my mind anyway. I have been called crazy on ocassion for my beliefs though so maybe I am out in left field here too.
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:13 AM
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I feel that the standards are in place for a reason and some standards, like the dobe since it was brought up already, as been in place for quite some time. I back up 100% if you want a doberman that is bigger, a different color, wider chest, etc... then you don't want a doberman at all. You need to search for a different breed.

As for the breeders (greeders) that breed for these "rare" and "unusual" traits, they ONLY do so to cash in on unsuspecting victims and make a buck. That's the case with the pit greeder mentioned in the start of this thread, she's only after money. She has no regard for what she's doing to the animals. She's going for BIG and different color (eyes etc), does she even stop for a moment to consider the health down the road of the animal, or the temperment? Nope. $$$$
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:12 PM
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I feel that the standards are in place for a reason and some standards, like the dobe since it was brought up already, as been in place for quite some time. I back up 100% if you want a doberman that is bigger, a different color, wider chest, etc... then you don't want a doberman at all. You need to search for a different breed.

As for the breeders (greeders) that breed for these "rare" and "unusual" traits, they ONLY do so to cash in on unsuspecting victims and make a buck. That's the case with the pit greeder mentioned in the start of this thread, she's only after money. She has no regard for what she's doing to the animals. She's going for BIG and different color (eyes etc), does she even stop for a moment to consider the health down the road of the animal, or the temperment? Nope. $$$$

Very good post and I agree 100%
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Old 11-02-2005, 07:30 PM
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The idea is to IMPROVE the breed. Not make it better. There is a difference. For instance.........a great majority of breeds call for layback of shoulder, rear angulation, and for a dog to be "let down on hock". The majority of these breeds today are horribly straight in the front, meaning that when you look at the dog from the side, the front legs are not set under the body as they should be. And there is absolutely no turn of stifle at all. When the dogs move, their legs do not extend out from under their body because of the crummy fronts and rears.

People have enough to do without breeding for fads or for money! And it isn't even improving or bettering the breed-----it is just trying to get the dogs to look like they are supposed to look like!!!!!!!! Trying to bring those breeds back up to par!!!!!!

There are consequences for bad fronts and rears........arthritis, excessive wear on joints, etc. The breed standard is not just for esthetics......it is so the dog can do what it is bred to do, and live a long healthy, hopefully pain free life.
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