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Old 10-18-2005, 06:47 AM
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Hi everyone, I know I have started lots of new threads, but you guys have helped me alot. SO here's my new question. Today is day 4, and Tidus has slept in my living room, the thing is I didnt have a crate before I got him so on day 1-3 I slept with him on my couch...well now he thinks the couch is his bed and I can't convince him that the crate is his place to sleep. I DONT EVER want to force him in there, but I also don't want to always sleep on the couch and not on my bed, what can I do?
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:04 AM
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Put him in the crate, and don't let him out even if he cries. He'll get used to it, and will grow to love it. It's not creul, all my books say to put them in their crates even if they don't like it at first.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:08 AM
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If you're going to use the crate, just know that it's going to take Tidus time to get used to it. No dog likes it from the start because they want the freedom to go where they want to. Put him in the crate with a toy and maybe start out with it in your bedroom or near your bedroom so he can see you. He will be crying and putting up a fuss to see how long it takes you to break and let him out.
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Old 10-18-2005, 08:15 AM
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Yeah, don't break and let him out. Otherwise he'll just keep crying even more to get out in the future.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:22 AM
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yeah well, I was thinking of putting him in my guest bathroom, for 2 reasons: 1) Its the best place right now since I own 2 grown cats and they don't like him nipping at thier tails, and 2) It is a little further from my bathrrom which is connected to my room...

Am I wrong? , I dont want him to be in the far bathroom but he just gets so loud it breaks my girlfriends heart and mine too and ends up getting his way. At least in the far bathroom I can somewhat drown him out until he decided to play with something else.

Also, how long should a puppy be in a crate? I planned on putting his crate in the bathroom with other toys, food and paper so he can eliminate, and leave him there over night for about 8 hrs...but my girlfriend thinks it might be too harsh since tonight will be day 1 of crate training and 8 hrs is too long. She wants to try 3hrs then bringing him to bed, and eventually increasing time lenght over weeks...any suggestions?
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:12 PM
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I don't think your girlfriend has a good idea... Teach the pup to come to bed with you, and he will cry everytime he isn't. At night, they sleep, so 8 hours is fine, just get up when he gets fussy in the morning and once or twice during the night to let him out to pee.

I don't agree with leaving the pup a place to eliminate inside either. If the crate is the right size, he shouldn't pee in it anyway, so you can just let him out a few times a night so he doesn't have to hold too long. Keep in mind that for every pee he does inside, on papers or not, it will be harder to housebreak him afterwards.
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:09 PM
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so i usually go to sleep about 12...im a college student...so I should wake up like evry 2 hrs or so to let him out thus I wake up @ 6-7 and let him be. But when I go to school, wouldnt putting him back in the crate be too long since im in school for 8 hrs. during the day.

Also, if I shoudlnt be rewarding paper potty's what should I do if he does?
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:50 PM
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You can crate train him, but do it gradually. I'd feed him in there and leave the door open. Leave his water in there too, so that's the only place he eats and drinks. Have some toys in there and let him come and go for a few days without shutting the door on him. Then after he's had some exercise and he's tired, try putting him in there and shutting the door for a while. Don't open it for him if he cries, but wait till he is quiet. Always give a command and a treat when he goes in and never associate it with punishment.

Teach him to go potty outside only. Take him out often and praise when he goes outside. Don't punish for accidents because it's not his fault. You need to watch him literally every second that he's loose in the house. Preventing accidents is the best way to teach him. You don't need to wake him to take him outside but be ready the second he wakes up, after eating, drinking, playtime etc, every half hour to 45 minutes otherwise. There are other threads with good potty training info. Do a search.

Four hours is as long as a pup should stay in there at a time. Also, in general, excessive confinement is not good for a pup. They need your companionship, training, and stimulation which they can't get if they're in a crate all the time.

It is helpful to have the crate in your room with you at night.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:20 PM
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On a lighter note, I don't know what breed of puppy that is, but it sure looks like a pug mix to me. Good luck trying to keep a pug of any sort off the couch for a nap LOL!!!!!!!

On a more serious note, it's never too late to crate train if it's done the right way.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:25 PM
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Good luck trying to keep a pug of any sort off the couch for a nap LOL!!!!!!!
LOL! He IS terribly adorable. I'd have a hard time not keeping him on the couch with me. LOL.
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