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Old 02-26-2011, 09:46 PM
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Default Are CM's methods abusive - link

Figured you all might be interested in this poll:

Dog Whisperer Lawsuit: Cesar Millan Sued by Flody Suarez

eta: Yea so I didn't see this was from 2009 until now. :P Pardon the old link/poll!
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:20 PM
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Even if it's from 2009... it's still relevant. Because he is STILL in business and people STILL believe the abuse and intimidation that he practices is TRAINING! It's sad that 86% of voters feel he is not abusive. How is choking a dog until it passes out not abusive?

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Old 02-26-2011, 11:16 PM
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i admit to not watching his show very often or find it helpful when I have, but i never saw him even come close to choking out a dog till it passes out. i'd have to see that
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:02 AM
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its out there on youtube. I tried to find it by my googlefu is weak tonight. I have linked it before so I know its out there.

He takes an on edge dog, threatens it, it bites him so he chokes it and kicks it (not just kicking to get it off) and doesn't let up the choking till the dog is on its side. More than a few vets have came forward to say in their opinion that dog lost consciousness and that it is dangerous and counterproductive to do such things in the name of 'training'.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:07 AM
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I found this***8230; too tired to read it all, but seems like it may be the incident being talked about?

Veterinary Behaviorists Take a Stand Against Cesar Millan
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:49 AM
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Are CM's methods abusive?

Yes they are. The way he treats dogs has nothing whatsoever to do with the way domestic dogs are. And what he does to them is shameful and pathetic and so are the people who follow him. They show a complete lack of common sense and understanding.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:31 PM
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Urgh he has come to the UK to do a series.

Everyone's like... awwwww I love that man, and look at me like I have 3 heads when I say I do NOT like him.

I'm not even sure how he got on TV.
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Old 02-27-2011, 03:25 PM
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He was Jada Pinkett & Will Smith's limo driver... for real. D: Sensational, fake "reality shows" are just the thing these days.

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Old 02-27-2011, 03:31 PM
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He came to my school to do a talk and I got to meet him

I think he is a very nice man, and daddy (the dog) is incredibly sweet.

but I also don't agree with his training methods and wouldn't use them on my dogs.

I don't think ALL his training methods are abusive..but I do think there are a few shows where he has gone too far.

I think the biggest danger isn't even Cesar himself.
its the people who watch the show and try to mimick him

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Old 02-27-2011, 03:42 PM
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Fran, I VERY much agree with you!! Especially on the last part

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