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Old 01-20-2011, 08:25 PM
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Default A Breeder who Breeds more than 1 Breed?

Let's say you're looking for a dog of a certain breed. So you start searching for breeders and you find a breeder who breeds two breeds. For example: a person who breeds English Bulldogs and French Bulldogs. Would you consider that they breed more than one breed a red flag? A yellow flag? Would you consider buying from that breeder or does it depend?
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:06 PM
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I say, a yellow flag, and it depends lol

I've seen a couple breeders that I'd consider pretty good... Where the wife breeds and shows one breed (and has been for years) and marries a hubby who's been into a totally separate breed (ditto).

But normally, typically, that'd make me VERY wary.
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:20 PM
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It alll really depends. I can see having two similar breeds, like BC's and GSD's or Corgis, ect, and then I can see having say, Danes and Chihuahuas. I take a look at the breeder as a whole, and the quality of what they're breeding.

If they're breeding fugly GSDs and suspicious looking BCs, then that's a red flag..
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:26 PM
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Bounce will have puppies... Not that I plan on being a prolific LHW breeder (well not even a prolific JRT breeder).. if they breed few litters and do lots with their dogs, I don't know why it would make a difference.

If they were churning out litters, then I would worry. But then it doesn't matter if they are churning out one breed, or 7....
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:33 PM
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I don't see a problem with it, as long as their dogs are well bred. I might start getting suspicious if they have four or more breeds, but two? Not a problem in my book.
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:41 PM
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It depends. There's a breeder I found who breeds chis, Rottweilers, and Danes. It sent off a red flag for me, personally. Though I know BC breeders who also breed other herding dogs or LGDs, and that makes sense to me.

When I look for a breeder, I personally want a breeder who is wholly invested into their chosen breed.
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Old 01-20-2011, 09:51 PM
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When I look for a breeder, I personally want a breeder who is wholly invested into their chosen breed.
Just curious, why? Can't a person be very involved with two breeds? I mean if they approach each breeding with care and forsight, breed to improve the breed. Take the time to do appropriate sports/testing with each breed. (ie my whippets race and course, the JRTs do earth dog stuff... well actually they do a pile of things, but you get where I am going)

Are you saying I would be a better JRT breeder if I don't breed Bounce? That somehow the Dekklets would be better if I never entertained the idea of also having Bounceletts one day? Or would the Bounceletts be better pups if I only had LHWs?
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:11 PM
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depends, though just two breeds wouldn't be a big concern for me. after all, i own two very different breeds of dogs and love them and respect and admire them both the same. i don't breed, but i've entertained the thought of it, and being involved in one breed doesn't make me less involved in the other. i don't know why it would be different for someone breeding.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:19 PM
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If they were churning out litters, then I would worry. But then it doesn't matter if they are churning out one breed, or 7....
This. It's quality, not quantity. A lot of people I consider good breeders (they health test, prove their dogs in conformation, perfomance, keep them in the house, etc.) have 2 or 3 breeds they work with.

Often it's a show breeder who's made friends with other breeders, and gotten interested in another breed that has different things to offer than their "main" breed. For example, it's not uncommon for people with big hounds to keep small dogs like paps or whippets around. And since they're into showing, they get nice prospects from their show friends and they show the 2nd breed too. Often they'll co-own, and sometimes the "secondary" breed will have a litter under the guidance and mentorship of the original breeder.

I hate the idea of being limited to one thing. I love borzois and will always have some around, but there are also things I like to do that aren't a borzoi's strongest trait. Tracking for one. Just because I like tracking doesn't mean I have to adopt a rescue to track with and never compete or breed it because I'm already involved in one breed.

Some day I will have a good show/working prospect who was mainly bred for nose work. Maybe a spinone, maybe a beezer, or a treeing walker, or even a fila, but if I prove it's worthy of being bred and my mentors in that breed agree, it might get bred. Would that make me a bad breeder?
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Just curious, why? Can't a person be very involved with two breeds? I mean if they approach each breeding with care and forsight, breed to improve the breed. Take the time to do appropriate sports/testing with each breed. (ie my whippets race and course, the JRTs do earth dog stuff... well actually they do a pile of things, but you get where I am going)
It's just my personal preference. One of the chi breeders I really like occasionally breeds English Bulldogs, and I have no problem with that. But if I were looking for an EB I wouldn't go to her, because her main focus is chihuahuas. Her EBs aren't badly bred or anything, but it makes me feel more confident in a breeder if they're 100% invested in that breed. Absolutely a person can be extremely invested in 2 breeds and produce stellar examples of both, though.

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Are you saying I would be a better JRT breeder if I don't breed Bounce? That somehow the Dekklets would be better if I never entertained the idea of also having Bounceletts one day? Or would the Bounceletts be better pups if I only had LHWs?
No, I don't think any of that. I think the Bounceletts will be just as awesome as the Dekklets. But I also know you better than I know a breeder I'm meeting for the first time, even when I do learn about all the great things they do for their dogs. I know how much you love JRTs. I also know you love your whippets, and how much you know about each breed.

TBH I'm not even sure what I'm getting at. It's just one my "things" when looking for a breeder, probably not completely rational. It has nothing to do with ethics, unless they're a mill and churning out 23 different breeds.
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