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So, here at Chaz obviously we've all talked about a million different training methods. I'm going to add another one.
Any book about dog training I can get my hands on I read, whether it's something I would use for my dogs or not. My grandma knows I love anything to do with dogs and a month or so ago she picked up a mini-book written by the trainer of the dog who played The Littlest Hobo. I lost it (>.<) but I read about a method to stop your dog from running away when it's off leash. It said if the dog runs away to grab your dog on the sides of the head, kneel to its eye level, look it in the eyes and stay like that for 15- 20 minutes, not letting it move. I was thoroughly confused by this. There are some training methods I don't like or understand (such as Leerburg's), but at least they have some sort of logic to them, ass-backwards as it may be. This, though, I couldn't make heads or tails of. Obviously it's not very comfortable for the dog, so it could be a correction, but that's the only thing that reminds me of anything else I've heard of. Thoughts?
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Maybe it's an attempt to hypnotize the dog?
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i have no idea about the grabbing of the head, but have you actually been on the Leerburg site, or just repeat what you've heard?
He doesn't have a "leerburg" method, he puts out info and what he finds to be useful. In case you haven't noticed, there is more free stuff and videos streaming on excellent dog training methods than you'll probably find on any other site on the net |
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Who the heck whats to stay like that for 15-20 minutes?! And I get the point... you are making direct eye contact with the dog, thereby intimidating.
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I wouldn't agree with doing that. Like Jess says, it's intimidating. Dogs would feel uncomfortable with that. It's punishment. Punishment of any kind should never be associated with a recall. And besides, 15 - 20 minutes is ridiculous. The dog would have lost any possible connection (if there were ever a connection, which is highly unlikely) after about 1/2 a minute. How is that going to make the dog EVER want to come to you again? The dog's coming to you and not running off should always be a rewardable experience, not an intimidating or unpleasant one. And to provide many instances of a rewardable experience, (which is what trains the dog) the dog should be set up to not fail...prevented from running off in the first place. He should not be cued to come until he is sure to come, but instead set up so he will come...long line, waiting for him to come on his own, practice in a non-distracting environment so you're likely to be the motivator, not something else in the surroundings and then reinforcing him heavily when he does come.
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I can just picture walking through the park and seeing someone on the ground with their dogs head between their hands staring at it....after not seeing them move for a few minutes you ask what they are doing and they say, "My dog wouldn't come, so I'm staring at him for half an hour."
O.o ROFL Yes, that makes sense.
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Oy...the "logic" is astounding.
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I purchased a video called "dogs that don't come when called." It worked in about 5 minutes. I didn't have to use the e-collar, long rope, or food. In fact, I didn't have to put anything special on the dog. The technique was very easy, but it's hard to explain it. The step by step instructions were clear, and easy to follow. The best thing about it was that it really did work.
I didn't have to stare my dog in the face for 20 minutes, either. That's funny, and kinda stupid. |
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Gotta love people who deny the existence of things like gravity. No reward, no punishment and Viola`! All the laws of the science of behavior go poof. Everything proven and demonstrated for eons suddenly no longer is real. I wonder what people like this are smoking. Sounds fun though!
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