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Old 12-15-2010, 03:18 PM
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I think JCM's Dog Training School is awesome. One can go to the top dog training schools in the nation and still not know as much as someone whom is truly naturally gifted. The lady that teaches is a genuine dog whisperer. I was blown away when I saw what her dogs could do.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:34 PM
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Hahaha...

If you want to self promote, it's usually better to hide your screen name a bit better. And also to research your audience. People here don't like the dog whisperer. And they DO like a lot of the top dog training schools.
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Old 12-15-2010, 03:43 PM
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Hahaha...

If you want to self promote, it's usually better to hide your screen name a bit better.
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:22 PM
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8 weeks of private lessons.. 700 dollars *pees self* For that cost I could go work with Susan Garrett not someone whose claim t fame is first place on Pet Star. Lord.

"We don't use food rewards we form a partnership".. yuck. What quality.. not. "food in dog training can also have detrimental consequences." Nice. No wonder ones claim to fame is pet star and not a title or 10.

Go peddle yourself elsewhere.
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:29 PM
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Food reward is not a practical form of training, so no treats are used in our program. The dog and owner should form a partnership based on communication, not manipulation. In other words, your dog should listen to you, not a piece of food. In addition, using food obligates the owner into carrying a food pouch everywhere. The use of food in dog training can also have detrimental consequences.
Perhaps you may want to tell that to the national and world champion types that they have been doing it wrong

This paragraph more than the rest, the price etc tells me to steer far away from a place such as this. If you want to train with no food, thats great. But to show such a fundamental lack of understanding is dismaying. A dog trained with food does not obey 'the food' and can have a very real relationship as one trained with toys. And a much better relationship than one where the dog fears your response.
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The dog and owner should form a partnership based on communication, not manipulation.
**Sits down and has a nice long chat with her dogs
**Gets pounced on, licked, bitten, barked at, peed on
**Heads for the bag of food
**Gets four quietly sitting dogs

I guess I'm doing something wrongly?
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Old 12-15-2010, 04:35 PM
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Perhaps you may want to tell that to the national and world champion types that they have been doing it wrong ...
We're thinking along the same lines, Dekka. I'd also like to ask how many 200's she's or her students have gotten in the obedience ring.
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Well food can be used as a aid to communication. Its a away of saying you do as I wish and sometimes there is something in it for you. I do notice the OP has a golden. They might be whistling a different tune if they had a terrier or a hound.
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The OP lists only three things on their training equipment page: a leash, a prong collar and a choke collar.

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Properly applied corrections, balanced with properly timed praise, reinforces leadership
Because yeah, those don't manipulate the dog at all.

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Doesn't use inappropriate training aids (harness, buckle collar, nylon or cotton leashes, gentle leader, Halti)
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JCM's Obedience Training Program adheres to the regulations and standards set forth by the
AKC (American Kennel Club)
*scratches head*
What exactly are the AKC "regulations and standards" in regards to TRAINING??
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:16 PM
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yes we all know causing pain is the BEST way to form a relationship /sarcasm

(I am not saying everyone who uses prong collars are sabotaging their relationship with their dog, but it shouldn't be your primary tool for communication with your dog)
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