Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dog Training Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-22-2010, 11:42 AM
skKi's Avatar
skKi skKi is offline
woop
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Outside
Posts: 1,518
Default Improper use of agility equipment

I couldn't decide if this question should be in the agility or training section, so mods feel free to move it to wherever is appropriate.

Pit is in agility and thanks to a ton of practice knows what I want him to do with each obstacle.

He and I are now training with a trainer to do demos for various things (for dog classes, children in school etc...) to basically show potential clients what he can offer and make learning fun for kids and what not. Some of the stunts require Pit to use agility equipment incorrectly (ie stopping at the top of an A-frame to pose).

I was wondering if it's possible to train him to do this without damaging his current understanding of how to use the equipment? Perhaps using a different cue?

Halp.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-22-2010, 05:35 PM
AgilityPup's Avatar
AgilityPup AgilityPup is offline
Agility freak!
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 5,201
Default

I'd use a different que, but that would be hard. I don't know very many people who are planning on trialing who would want to do that.
__________________

Zoey - Mini Aussie / Psyche - Border Collie / Simi - GSD
Forever Missed Bella - GSD [03-11-07 - 09-17-10]
Going For 'Good Dog!' Blog
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-22-2010, 05:52 PM
MafiaPrincess's Avatar
MafiaPrincess MafiaPrincess is offline
Obvious trollsare Obvious
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ontario
Posts: 6,134
Default

I've done demos... I've never been asked to do anything that is anti agility training. Way shorter sequences, single obstacles but never anything that goes against what I want..
__________________

Stop paddling your own douchecanoe

CRB Houdini's Apple Cider RXMCL AGDC AADC MSDC MJDC RNT CL3-F CL3-H EXJ Bronze
AAC's Top Dog List ~~ 2007-11 Q's ~~ 2008-11 Q's ~~ 2009-10 Q's
AAC's Overall Top Dog List - 47 Q's and 7 Titles


Stanton Acres Out Of The Ashes SGDC RNMCL MJDC ADC CL3-F CL3-S CL3-H SD-S (SP)
AAC's Top Dog List 2009 - 12 Q's

Stark Naked Burn It To The Ground

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-22-2010, 06:57 PM
lizzybeth727's Avatar
lizzybeth727 lizzybeth727 is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 6,403
Default

I think you can do it in a way that definately does not hurt agility training. Like stopping on the top of the A-frame - just be clear in your body language (and probably a verbal cue, like "stop") that you want him to stop. Then when you're doing a real agility run, you're going to keep running past the A-frame, making it clear with your body language that you want him to keep going. *shrugs* I really don't see how it would cause problems.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-22-2010, 07:01 PM
MericoX's Avatar
MericoX MericoX is offline
Roos, Poos, & a Wog!
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In depression
Posts: 5,235
Default

Maybe suggest using a stuffed animal to show the "wrong" way?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-22-2010, 07:12 PM
Dekka's Avatar
Dekka Dekka is offline
Just try me..
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 19,232
Default

Personally if you have any desire to trial, don't do it. Its hard enough to do when you are consistently practising the same thing over and over again on the equip.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-22-2010, 07:53 PM
skKi's Avatar
skKi skKi is offline
woop
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Outside
Posts: 1,518
Default

I should have been clearer and said I'm only in agility classes at the moment. We do not trial yet and am likely not going to do so. Regardless, I would like to maintain his skill and do it properly to leave doors open.

He won't mind if I decide not to train Pit to do those particular stunts, I was just confirming the nagging in the back of my mind that it would probably be detrimental to his agility world.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-22-2010, 09:23 PM
BostonBanker's Avatar
BostonBanker BostonBanker is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Vermont
Posts: 8,095
Default

Personally, I wouldn't do it, but I do compete, so correct performance matters to me a lot. I think it is certainly possible to teach different cues, but you are going to wind up with a dog that is going to head up the a-frame every time looking to you and trying to figure out what to do. I want my dog driving as hard as she can over the top into her contact position, not wondering what the right answer is today.

I've also done a ton of demos through our agility club, and the only thing they request is that you don't spend a lot of time correcting things.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-22-2010, 11:29 PM
adojrts's Avatar
adojrts adojrts is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,089
Default

Agreed, I wouldn't do it, not if I ever wanted to compete. Another concern would be, if this trainer is asking for this kind of stuff, just how experienced and good are they as an agility trainer? I can't think of one trainer that competes that would require or request that of any of their students.

Good luck.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-23-2010, 09:24 AM
skKi's Avatar
skKi skKi is offline
woop
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Outside
Posts: 1,518
Default

He doesn't train agility, he just wants to use some of the equipment for whatever his plans are as he has them on hand.

Thanks!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:37 PM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site