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Old 06-25-2010, 07:46 PM
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Sometimes, I think that Enzo is kind of dumb. That's cool, it keeps her out of trouble, but I think that sometimes she's going "okay, she's looking at me, what does she want? Alright, I'll put my butt on the ground... nope, still looking at me, okay, let's go a little lower..."
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:52 PM
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Dogs learn default behavior. Generally, sit is one of the first cues that a puppy learns and is rewarded for, so sit is a common default behavior. Also, if when initially training, you always started with a sit, she needs to sit before doing a second behavior. At least she's paying attention, a big plus!
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:54 PM
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Some dogs are more visual than others so I try to create the auditory/visual to start a command with a signal and a voice. Once they have that action down then I move to auditory only then add visual signal only. Then we bring it back together.

Offering up the roulette of tricks isn't a stupid behavior. It's actually very intelligent because she's trying to figure out what exactly you're looking for. A marker/clicker will help you achieve the link your dog is after.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:55 PM
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Ozzys default is down. Enzos is too, actually, but I always make them sit before leaving the house to go potty, or to go somewhere, and before I taught the sit, I just taught WAIT, so I think that's what's confusing her at doorways. She waits to get in and out of the car, we wait at crosswalks, etc. Wait just means don't move forward, so not the same as stay, but I decided id prefer they SIT at the doorway, instead of crowding each other and me even though they weren't moving forward

I just thought about this not ten minutes ago before I let them out. You could see the wheels turning in her head, lol
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:17 PM
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Phoebe knows some much better than others. She knows sit, down, twirl, and come very well. She has trouble with roll over, she tries other things first. If I cared more about that command I'd practice it more and then she'd get it. It's all a matter of practice with her.
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Sometimes, I think that Enzo is kind of dumb. That's cool, it keeps her out of trouble, but I think that sometimes she's going "okay, she's looking at me, what does she want? Alright, I'll put my butt on the ground... nope, still looking at me, okay, let's go a little lower..."
I don't know if I would call that dumb; it could be that she doesn't really understand what you want (sitting before a down is common in dogs who were taught the command by being lured into a down from a sit) or she's lacking motivation to make it snappier
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:10 PM
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Well, she is definitely not the brightest bulb. It takes her about three times as long to learn a new trick, like a completely new trick, not building off of anything, than it does Ozzy. Ozzy is a very fast learner, but that also means he gets into a LOT more trouble than Enzo because he can figure everything out a lot quicker.

She shouldn't be lacking in motivation to sit, because the quicker she sits, the quicker she gets to go outside.

I don't mind that she's slow, I just wanted to know if everyone's dogs were like that.
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My girl Rose is like that. It isn't that she isn't smart...it is that she wants to do things her way. She doesn't like having to do things, even uncued things (like sitting to go out a doorway), unless it is her idea to do them. She picks up on things very quick, but then having her perform them on cue can be a bit challenging. Unless you have food. Then she runs through her entire trick repitore, hoping that one of the tasks will result in a crumb being dropped. LOL
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:42 PM
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Heh Roman's like that.

I don't think he actually knows most of his commands. He guesses by the context and my body language. Whatever. It works 95% of the time. I can point him in a direction and say "Go over there" and then say "Get it, bring it here" and he'll start picking up and dropping things in his vicinity, waiting for the yes marker. He doesn't actually know what I want, but he gets that I want something, and that something is probably nearby, and when I say yes, he's got the right thing. Of course I use "get it" and "bring it here" for his actual toys, sticks, balls, etc. So sometimes I'll try and get him to pick up something random and he'll try going for the stick he was just playing with, so I'll tell him "no" and to "go get it." It's kinda like the game hotter, colder.

The guessing is handy for training sometimes. For instance, I wanted to teach him rollover. I told him "side" (lie flat on your side) and he'd do that, then I repeated the command and he started trying new things, rolling onto his back, then he rolled totally over. yesss. good dog. I did something similar to teach him "paw."

He's not so well trained and secure in his commands that I can tell him to "side" 5 times and he'll remain flat. By the second or third time I give a command he's offering other behaviors.
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Old 06-25-2010, 11:04 PM
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Gavroche knows his very well. We haven't really done much new lately, so everything he knows is very solid. That doesn't mean he doesn't like to test me...like yesterday when we were doing a practice rally course and apparently everything fell out of his brain

Logan knows most of his command, though right now we're staring a lot of new things and he doesn't really KNOW them yet. But just because he knows something doesn't mean he'll do it right away. He's a teenage boy, he has to be told multiple times sometimes
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