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Old 09-23-2005, 04:08 PM
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It's not my own opinion unfortunately. I wouldn't care if it didn't involve the pups, too. Unfortunately, now they are born, and if they end up in bad families they might end up in a shelter as well... That's not an opinion, it's a fact. As it's a fact too that 7 million dogs who never asked to be born were killed last year in the US, because people bred their parents when there was nobody interested in buying the pups. But no, people still breed their dogs just for the fun of it and/or to make money. What a great world we live in.

If you feel bad, maybe it's because you realize that you did something wrong... I hope so at least.

I don't care if the dogs are 'healthy' (does that mean they had all tests one?)... The problem is that unwanted puppies were born, and your friend is willing to sell them to anyone to get rid of them. Responsible breeding indeed...
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:22 PM
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I too am sorry if I jumped down your throat. The fact that you are trying to find good homes ,rather than have a broker take 3 ,changes the picture. Have you looked into Yorkie rescue ?? BTW, did you get a stud fee or pick of the litter ?
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:46 PM
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I got a pup from my friend so I don't charge. I kept one of the puppies. have you asked yourself? Are you healthy to have babies yourself? Maybe you should also get a check up before having kids. There's alot of kids out there that need homes. Why don't we all stop having babies and adopt a few kids. This is also a fact!
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Old 09-23-2005, 06:19 PM
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You have no clue what you're talking about... I have infertility problems so I have actually looked into adoption. It takes minimum 8 months to adopt a kid, often closer than a year. It also costs over $30.000. For babies, you have to wait until they are born here, or go through International Adoption, which takes even longer. Yup, there are children in orphanages there but because of all the laws, it's really hard to adopt them. I can refer you to a forum I know from women who cry everyday because it's really hard to adopt a baby, if you want. Through the US, they ALL have to wait for the kids to be born, and 30% of the time the mom changes her mind. Or they foster kids, and half the time they can't even keep them.

Bottom line, stop comparing apples and oranges, and stop talking about what you have no clue about. I haven't heard anywhere that 7 million kids were killed last year because they couldn't find a home. But you really don't care about those dogs in shelters, do you?
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:01 PM
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You really haven't heard. You know how many kids in Africa die every year? I do know how adoption works because I know someone whose going through that. She's adopting a baby from China who is alot more heathier than here in the states. She told me that babies here in the states have druggy mommies that is why she is getting one from china. I also know how much it cost to adopt one over seas and all the immigrant issue. So don't tell me that I don't know anything. So if you care for dogs therefore you should care for all the rest of the kids in the world. You know how many kids die in other countries? Obviously you don't know that because you haven't been around. There are people in other countries that sell their own kids just to support themselves and for the sake of their kids. What are you going to say now? That they are irresposible or they just want to profit? If you can have kids you would do it too. You wouldn't adopt one because you don't think enough kids or people die everyday right? I donate money and clothes every month to other countries so that kids can have clothes and food.
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Candy try putting a ad on Adpost.com or Hoobly Classifieds.I am sorry for what has happened but please dont let them go to an agent-Broker.Thanks Lisa.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:14 PM
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And how does that relate to you adding to the dog surpopulation in shelters by breeding your dog and selling them to anyone? As I said, it's apples and oranges. Yes, there are worse problems in the world, but this is a DOG forum, so sorry if I am focussing on what we can do to prevent more DOGS from dying in shelters every year. But again, it doesn't seem to bother you that your dog's pups might end up in shelters anyway, so I don't know why I bother. I guess some people just can't learn.

And by the way, what your friend is saying about children in China being more healthy than here is wrong. And I don't think any word can express how angry I am at you right now for putting down people who want to start a family. It's just beyond lame, low, whatever you want. I'm sure everyone on the forums who has kids will be really happy to see how for you it's a shame to have babies because some are dying in other countries.

I'm going to ask Renee to close this thread before I get really rude.
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[/QUOTE]There are people in other countries that sell their own kids just to support themselves and for the sake of their kids. What are you going to say now? That they are irresposible or they just want to profit? If you can have kids you would do it too. You wouldn't adopt one because you don't think enough kids or people die everyday right?[QUOTE]

Absurd!!! Those statements are very absurd. You are really on the defensive, that means guilt usually. Hope the pups find good homes and those owners have them fixed to avoid another cycle of situations like you have contributed to.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:23 PM
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I'm going to ask Renee to close this thread before I get really rude.

There is no need to be rude just control yourself! This is getting beyond stupid, kids and dogs come on. If you find this thread so upsetting then just do not read it, you are so much better than this so lets show it!

Fran we know how you feel and it is good that you care so much about dogs.


Candy congradulations for stepping up and trying to find appropriate homes.
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Old 09-23-2005, 07:25 PM
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exactly that's my point. So many people dying and your focused on dogs. But your right this is a dog forum and at some point I start to feel like this forum was about putting people and judging people. And there you go again putting me down because you think you know everything. You don't know my friend and I trust her expertise since she's adopting a few kids and looked around so I don't think your in any position to tell me that my friend doesn't know anything. Im putting my puppies in good homes and I will guarantee you they won't end up in a shelter.
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