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Old 06-19-2010, 06:12 PM
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A little update:

I've been getting him acquainted to the crate. He's been staying in it for 5 minutes or so at a time with me not in the room and has been doing OK.

I took him and the crate over to my parents house today, let him run around outside for a little bit, then crated him in a closed/quiet room. He started barking like crazy and would not stop -- ten minutes straight until I went in there and sat on the bed (completely ignored him). He quieted down and I let him out and praised him for being quiet.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:08 PM
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Will he bark if you're not home if you, say, leave on the radio or the TV?
Have you tried covering the crate with something like a towel and then turning the TV on when you leave?
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:22 PM
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Have you tried covering the crate with something like a towel and then turning the TV on when you leave?
Sorry, missed that. I usually leave the TV on but I'm unsure if it makes any difference

I've started using a kong stuffed with peanut butter and putting it in the crate, locking him in, and leaving. I just left him in there for about 15 minutes while I went to the store. I expected to come back and hear him barking, but he wasn't.

I'm hoping it's a sign of progress, but, after his barkathon at my parents house today, I don't know.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:58 PM
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M'kay. Often the noise of a TV or radio does help but if you haven't noticed it making a difference, it probably isn't. Part of his problem may also be the new environment at your parent's house. Auggie loves his crate at home and NEVER barks when left in it (and often even goes in it on his own) but if I am at a hotel and want to go grab food, I have to cover his crate with a blanket and leave the TV on. The change of environment is something new so that will probably take some time just getting used to the new place.

What you need to do with him at your parents is to put him in the crate, take a step back, then come back to the crate and give him some treats as long as he hasn't started to bark or whine. Take a few steps back, come back, give him treats and/or let him out. Slowly work your way out of the room, one step at a time, but you will not shut the door at first - just walk right back in and give treats/let him out. Then you will shut the door to the room but only for a half-second, open it again IMMEDIATELY, and walk back to give treats. Then keep the door shut for a second, then two, then three or four seconds. It's a very very slow process and is probably going to take days if not weeks to get him used to being left alone and being quiet for minutes and hours at a time. What you're teaching him is not only "being quiet in the crate gets you a cookie/let back out," but also "I will come back when I leave you here."

You can stuff the kong with peanut butter and put it in the freezer to make it last longer. A lot of people have two kongs so they can always keep one in the freezer when the dog has the other! Getting him used to being left in the crate when he is at home will help him transition to being in the crate at your parents, but like I said, a different environment can be expected to change the rules some. It's normal and he'll be able to work through it with time!
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:44 PM
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Thanks for the tips.

How do I respond to barking while he's in the crate at home? I'd like to leave him in the crate while I go out tomorrow, but my roommates will be here. Of course he will be in my room with the door closed and the crate mostly covered -- but what if he barks? How do I tell them to respond to it?
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Old 06-20-2010, 10:30 PM
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They should ignore the barking. At some point you may be able to put a "hush" command on him, but someone yelling "hush!" from the next room may not do the trick.

Does he have to be left in your room? If he was in the hallway he may feel better seeing who is coming and going.
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Does he ever stop for a minute or two? If during those times you walk by and drop a treat in the crate it might help (ignore barking, reward silence). At first it will likely get him started barking again but then if during the next quiet you drop another in, then so on and so forth, he might try holding his silence for longer. If he does and after the treat he continues his silence for another minute come back and drop another, repeating for the whole time he's crated (don't make it too long). Then over time have a longer space between the treats (go to two minutes, then 3, then 5, then 10 (if he can deal with that, if not try 7 or whatever he needs)) and so on until he's silent for hours. Obviously it would be very long annoying work but it might do the trick. However I don't know if he'd keep it up once you left the house but he might. Start with short outings and then increase time. Video tape the first few outings if you can.


If you can get him to stay quiet just by occupying him with kongs or bully sticks though, that might work out better as it's a LOT easier for you. Only give him these items for crate time though so they stay special, and change what you put in the kong from time to time so it stays exciting.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:35 PM
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I broke down and tried a citronella collar. It didn't even phase him. I only tried it after other methods failed to work. It's now off of him and not being used. I was recommended a D.A.P pheromone plug-in...not optimistic, but it's worth a shot.

I took video of him today while I was gone. After finishing off his PB filled Kong, he started barking. At the time, there was one person in the house that he probably heard. They leave, and I fast forward and count three other times during his 8 hour stay in the crate where he got up and just started barking. He wasn't barking at anything specific, his ears weren't perked up, he wasn't looking at anything like the door or window, just randomly barking. He went back to sleep, woke up however later and started up again. It recycles like that.

I'll see how this 'calming' pheromone works tomorrow.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:57 PM
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He's barking to tell you he's ready to come out of the crate. Nobody comes, he gives up. It's working. Could put an interactive food dispensing toy in the crate with him. Give him his breakfast in the toy and he will be getting mental exercise moving the toy around to get the kibble. If you feed raw this won't work so well.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:08 PM
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He's been staying in his crate for nearly two weeks now and the barking isn't getting any better. I've tried everything I can think of. I figured getting him worn out would work, so I got up extra early and made him go running with me. Wore him out and the barking was still persistent.

I've tried using kibble in the kong, but it's not something he's interested in. The PB wears off fast, even if frozen overnight.
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