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Old 09-22-2005, 03:41 PM
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I met a lady today who mentioned that she showed border collies in both conformation and obedience. I said that was quite an accomplishment, and that I was working on obedience training with Zeus. She asked me what kind of dog he was, and I said a blackmouth cur.

She said "Oh, a hound breed." *insert condescending smile here* "Don't waste your time, dear."



Waste my time?? Just because Zeus is a hound doesn't mean he can't learn anything! I think my puppy is doing very well, thank you very much! Is that a common attitude among dog trainers, or did I just happen to meet one of the narrow-sighted ones?
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:06 PM
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Remember, she has border collies, who have an almost unnatural advantage in obedience...I think Zeus can do just fine. Probably won't out-do a BC, but just fine for you!
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:16 PM
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Don't even worry about her. Some people just need to put others down to feel better about themselves. Small people/ Small mind. Plus I bet he doesn't care what she said, so don't let it upset you.
Just like people all dogs are different. Don't put a limit on you dog just b/c of his breed. He might just exceed everyone expectaions!
And even if that isn't his thing maybe he just better at something else.. like big kisses!
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:18 PM
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She's right... He will never be able to do what a border collie or a lab does...


Take it as a compliment though, he has enough brains to think before doing stuff instead of doing anything unconditionally
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:26 PM
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Border collies are extremely intelligent dogs which is why they are popular in competitions, but I think it was rude and extremely stupid of that woman to say that Zeus can't do anything.
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:33 PM
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I think it's narrow minded to think that you can't accomplish much with a hound. If you work within the parameters of what he was bred for, take his natural drives, find what motivates him, (even though it may be more difficult...something will motivate ANY breed) be creative to work around obstacles, he'll learn just fine. People like that would just make me want to take up the challenge even more. Some dogs are indeed very well suited for obedience, ones that were bred to work alongside man, but when you think about, all domestic dogs are genetically wired to be with mankind. That's why they're domestic. Some people act like different breeds are some other specie. And that's not so. You may have to work a little harder and use some unconventional twists on some methods, but if you make it fun and worth HIS while, I bet you he'll come a long way. It sounds like you've already made leaps and bounds. Don't let anyone discourage you. He doesn't have to be a Border Collie or Lab. Set up some realistic goals and make a plan. When he reaches that, make a new set of goals. Just go from there. You go girl!
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Old 09-22-2005, 04:42 PM
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Talk that lady into taking her BC's out tracking with you and see who wins. Different dogs for different purposes and one's not meant to be better than the rest.
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Old 09-22-2005, 08:14 PM
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Talk that lady into taking her BC's out tracking with you and see who wins. Different dogs for different purposes and one's not meant to be better than the rest.
Excellent! Yeah....ask her how her dog would measure up to a bloodhound finding a lost child or dead person hundreds of miles away who was carried off in a car.
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:23 PM
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Personally.. Id take your dog over a BC any day... I have had them and although I agree they are great working dogs.. and intelligent.. but I have seen many intelligent dogs that are far from a B.C. Some dogs just have a knact for different things.. one of my goldens can find anything if you give her something to smell.. she's never been trained.. it's just her.. it works well when I need to track down Bailey if he wanders off the trail.. he'll always come.. but sometimes I tell Brooke "get Bailey" and she goes and gets him.. or takes me to him.. ... don't worry about her... some people have to make others feel small to make themselves feel big...
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:46 PM
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Wow, does this sound like someone else we know or what Hounds are supposed to be the way they are. I wouldn't count on a bc to find my dinner for the night, or my lost child as someone else said. Daisy tracked Tim today. No joke. Sunny couldn't do that if his life depended on it...okay MAYBE then, but seriously. AAAANNND Zeus is doing well in obediance, you said so yourself! Daisy has managed to catch up to Sunny in 90% of what he knows, and took less time to do it. Some people just feel the need to put others down. It's not much of a competition if EVERY dog there is a superbley trained bc now is it? Zeus just may show them up, given time and practice. That's not what you're in it for anyway! Stupid people. Give Zeus a big ol' hug, and if you see that lady again, ask her how she thinks her dogs would do in a tracking competition, then look at her and say, oh, you have border collies, poor thing, don't waste your time
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