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Old 05-16-2010, 03:51 PM
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what you are doing is so great, they are lucky you found them, I suppose you're lucky too or else you could have had a colony on your hand in no time lol.
Thanks for the compliment! We already do have quite a colony, though. My neighbor feeds them and then they spend the day on my property. We've been trying to coordinate with a cat rescue group in town that does catch and release spay/neuters, but obviously we were a little late this time. But I will definately be getting these kittens spayed/neutered before they go to their new homes.

Thanks for the tips about sexing the kittens, the pictures were most helpful. I'm about to go feed them again so I'll see if I can figure it out.

Oh, one question: It's been about 24 hours now and they haven't pooped yet. They also haven't been eating solid food, though, so should I be worried about the pooping?
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:30 PM
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I'd try to get them to poop, as you wouldn't want them to become constipated. Normally, they should go once at least every 24 hours. When I was waiting to see if Apollo would go on his own, he went 36 hours without going before I stimulated him. The next day or so he went on his own. And if your kitties are starting to urinate on their own (even if it was on the bedding! lol) then they are almost there!

Just rub their little bottoms with a warm damp washcloth in a circular motion. It may take a bit of rubbing to produce anything, but keep trying.

I know Apollo started urinating on his own before he started defecating on his own. Of course, that also may have had something to do with the fact that he was getting over an illness and his poops weren't quite normal yet. Now he is a little poop machine. lol

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The canned food I'm feeding is Science Diet kitten food (eeek, I know), but it's the only kitten food that the Tractor Supply by my house has. They do have canned Blue Buffalo adult cat food, do you think I should feed them that instead?
Eh, it depends, I suppose. I don't think feeding them adult canned food would hurt them any, but I don't know. Although isn't the Blue Buffalo food formulated for both cats and kittens? I don't think the Science Diet canned food will be bad for them, so to speak. Does your vet carry any canned kitten food that you could purchase?

And yes, you have to love their pathetic, and completely adorable, attempts to play.

Also - I think just a bath in regular kitten shampoo is fine, unless there is a drastic flea problem. When Apollo was recovering from his illness he had to get a bath due to the fact he got nasty poops and milk from the force feedings all over himself. He wasn't very happy.


Just make sure if you do bathe them that you make sure they stay dry and WARM. It wouldn't hurt to dry them off with a blowdryer and then wrap them up on a towel and put them on a heating pad until they are totally dry.

And - running them under warm water while scrubbing their bottom with a washcloth is another way to get them to go to the bathroom, so if you are having trouble getting them to poop then you might just try that method!
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:00 PM
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Alright, I'll try to get them to poop tonight. *fingers crossed!*

One website I read said to never dry them with a blowdryer, so I'm glad you said I can.

Those pics are pretty much what my kitties look like (different coloring, of course)... complete with the "what the he11 is going on?????" expression on their faces.

I tried sexing them earlier, couldn't tell a darn thing. Maybe the vet will be more successful. Makes you realize how easy dogs really are.

It's actually been pretty fun taking care of these little critters... and easier than I was expecting *knock on wood*. If all goes well, I think I'll apply to foster kittens for a rescue group I know of that's always looking for more foster homes.

Oh, and I just read a CL post of someone who just had to have a 5-week-old kitten... something about it not getting along with her dachshund, I don't know. But I was like, there's no way I'd give these guys up next week, they're still SO helpless!
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I use dawn on kittens..

I have yet to actually find cat shampoo of any form in central NFLD.. So thats why I use dawn though.

I wouldn't use a Hair dryer on them.. IMO it just adds unnecessary stress to the little ones.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:42 PM
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I have yet to actually find cat shampoo of any form in central NFLD.. So thats why I use dawn though.
I got it from Petsmart when I adopted my cat... about 4 years ago now. I gave her a total of 1 1/2 baths (couldn't get her soaped up the second time), but I still use the shampoo on Luna. It's tearless so it works well on her face. Plus it smells good.... baby powder, I think.

I'll probably attempt baths tomorrow. My arms are sore from their little nails tonight. I'm pretty sure they just haven't figured out how to retract their claws yet.
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most say no hiardyers because people hair dryers can get very hot, me, ive used without a problem i just put it on cool, keep it a distance and keep it moving.
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:31 AM
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most say no hiardyers because people hair dryers can get very hot, me, ive used without a problem i just put it on cool, keep it a distance and keep it moving.
Yes, exactly. If the kittens completely spazz out I wouldn't use it, but I blowdried Apollo with it and he just laid there. He was more upset about the bath than the drying part (and he now runs everytime he hears running water in the bathroom, poor guy. LOL). A cat breeder of many years is the one who told me that hairdrying was okay, and considering she's been raising litters of kittens (and showing cats) for over 25 years I take her word for it.

I couldn't find a cat shampoo, either, so I just used puppy shampoo. Tearless and gentle was what I was aiming for.

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I'll probably attempt baths tomorrow. My arms are sore from their little nails tonight. I'm pretty sure they just haven't figured out how to retract their claws yet.
Yup, their claws aren't retractable yet. Still in the half in, half out stage. And then once they can retract their claws, they like too attack with them.

Taking care of kittens is a load of fun. I'd love to foster litters as well, but it is also a lot of work if you get them really young...I can't imagine trying to care for an entire litter of abandoned week old kittens. Getting up every two hours to feed round the clock was hard enough with one baby - I can't even imagine doing it with four or five! And then the formula cost . Now, if they weren't orphaned and had the momma, that'd be great. All the hard work is done for you. lol
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Yup, their claws aren't retractable yet. Still in the half in, half out stage. And then once they can retract their claws, they like too attack with them.
Yay, something to look forward to.

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Taking care of kittens is a load of fun. I'd love to foster litters as well, but it is also a lot of work if you get them really young...I can't imagine trying to care for an entire litter of abandoned week old kittens. Getting up every two hours to feed round the clock was hard enough with one baby - I can't even imagine doing it with four or five! And then the formula cost . Now, if they weren't orphaned and had the momma, that'd be great. All the hard work is done for you. lol
Yeah, I'm lucky that these kiddos are old enough not to need SO much work. Looking back, I wish I had waited another week or so, but still, it's not bad. Maybe if I foster I can specify "4 week olds only."

Gave the little guy a bath this morning, he couldn't have been more adorable wrapped up in his little towel. (Can't find my camera!!!) He took the bath pretty well, didn't complain too much until the end, but then I hurried through it as well. I'm really hoping it'll make them easier to bathe in the future, fingers crossed!

My friend supposedly has a pair of teeny nail clippers, so hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to just dull the tips of their nails. Maybe practice now will help them tolerate that better in the future, too.

The vet was completely full until Wednesday, and I couldn't even get an appointment then, I'll have to drop them off in the morning and hopefully pick them up by lunch. I'm very frustrated with my vet, but I stick with him soely because he doesn't talk to me like I'm an idiot. I'm hoping once they're cleared, they can meet my cat. I don't know if she'll like them, but I do think she'll tolerate them.... I think she'll be a good role model.

Thanks again for your help! It's so nice to have support and encouragement!!
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Yeah, I'm lucky that these kiddos are old enough not to need SO much work. Looking back, I wish I had waited another week or so, but still, it's not bad. Maybe if I foster I can specify "4 week olds only."
Hehehe, now there you go. I'd be willing to take in an orphan baby again, I just can't imagine having an entire orphan litter unless they were old enough to manage somewhat on their own. Best way would be to foster a pregnant momma kitty.

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My friend supposedly has a pair of teeny nail clippers, so hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to just dull the tips of their nails. Maybe practice now will help them tolerate that better in the future, too.
I need to do this with Apollo, but I'm too lazy. I need to start now, since he'll need his claws trimmed if my parents will let me keep him in the house...

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The vet was completely full until Wednesday, and I couldn't even get an appointment then, I'll have to drop them off in the morning and hopefully pick them up by lunch. I'm very frustrated with my vet, but I stick with him soely because he doesn't talk to me like I'm an idiot. I'm hoping once they're cleared, they can meet my cat. I don't know if she'll like them, but I do think she'll tolerate them.... I think she'll be a good role model.
Hopefully they all get a clean bill of health! Unless your cat is just HATES other cats, cats tend to tolorate babies very well. My mom's cat, Pheobe, hates other adult cats (she tries to attack them when she sees them), but she tolorates Apollo. The only problem we have with her is that she beats up on him (ie. pounces, swats, and then runs for the hills LOL) and we have to supervise so he doesn't get pestered beyond his limit.
And our/neighbor's outdoor cat - who also has no qualms about fighting with tresspassing stray/feral cats - just ignores Apollo. lol
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