wheatens

[Pops2]

anyone got any leads on working wheatens in the USA. we are moving to UT soon and i will be needing a den dog for coyote chasing. will probably get a nice little pit 30-35#, pitXpat or jrt, maybe airedaleXjagd but am interested in other terriers that might do the job (already figured out jagds, irish & smaller breeds too small for coyotes work).

[Zoom]

I wouldn't even know where to start looking, honestly. That breed has been so screwed up by showing and BYB's/petstores that I honestly couldn't imagine anyone is still out there breeding for something else.

Make sure you stop by Denver and say howdy.

[drmom777]

I know there are people breeding working Airdales--that might be a better bet.

[Pops2]

yeah, if i go w/ a pure dale it'll be a redline of Matt Thoms mogollon lines as they are the smallest working dales but they are still usually bigger than what i want. i might however get the smallest good working gyp i can find & put her under a good jagd the cumberland pack has some good dogs and a hoghunter i know down in TX has a dynamite coldnosed one that catches him a lot of hogs.
it's just going to be a hard niche to fill, 30-35# is ideal and up to 40# wll likely work but over 40# is going to be too big.

[colliewog]

I've never seen or heard of a true working Wheaton in the US ... Maybe they do exist ...

[Tahla9999]

A wheaten versus a coyote? Aint that a little small to be going after a coyote?

[Pops2]

not in a den. its no different than sending a pat or jack into a hole after a fox. the important thing is that me & the sonic weasel will be sitting right outside the hole. if the coyote bolts the weasel shound catch it and hold it for me to catch & tie. if it doesn't bolt for the terrier, i dig just enough to pull the terrier out. then we ambush it when it comes out to see if we've left.

[Zoom]

I did a Google search for a good 20 minutes last night and the closest I came was a guy in the UK selling a working bitch. No kennels, no contacts, nothing.

[Tahla9999]

Originally Posted by Pops2

not in a den. its no different than sending a pat or jack into a hole after a fox. the important thing is that me & the sonic weasel will be sitting right outside the hole. if the coyote bolts the weasel shound catch it and hold it for me to catch & tie. if it doesn't bolt for the terrier, i dig just enough to pull the terrier out. then we ambush it when it comes out to see if we've left.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

[Pops2]

i went to the club site & looked at the breeder list. there is 1 in UT, 6 in CO, & 10 in AZ. i'll start there by e-mailing them for info. I may try an incorrigible cat killer from rescue, IF the pedigree is known.