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Old 01-18-2010, 06:22 PM
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We're doing this on another forum and I thought maybe you guys could put in your take too. I am actually wavering a bit on breed choice for the future larger dog, so here goes...

I'm looking for a medium to large dog in the range of 30-70 lbs preferably. I will obviously go smaller but I want something different than the paps and honestly I can't see myself with another breed that is small. If I want a small dog, I'd likely just get another pap. I could go a little larger, but I am not a fan of giant breeds, though.

Energy level needs to be high, but I like focus and an off switch that can be instilled. I'm looking at staying with the typical 2-3 hours a day of exercise. We do the park two hours where they run offleash and we also do a lot of fetch games and training.

I'm looking for a sports dog. Agility is my main focus, but I'd like to try both flyball and lure coursing in the future. (Probably not with the same dog, so an either/or would work there)

I like some biddability but I also like a somewhat independent streak. I'm realizing this working with Mia and thinking of my past dog Nikki. Both are somewhat independent and like to throw a wrench into your plans. Summer is so biddable, it's like cheating with her, lol. I like that edge that Nikki and Mia have that Summer seems to lack. I like dogs that are good problem solvers over anything else. (You know, the ones that figure out how to open your draws and take things out ... coughmiacough)

Needs to be able to live with the papillons however they will obviously be separated when not strictly supervised. I can deal with not allowing them outside together though too. (In the case of sighthounds I know many live fine inside but can have prey drive kick in outside).

No tendency to be DA, but doesn't have to be a dog park dog either. I'd just like to avoid any huge issues between my own crew.

No coats that need professional grooming.

Either friendly or aloof with strangers works for me. I've had both and like both but I do tend to like the aloofness a bit more, honestly. Summer is super friendly and Mia is very aloof with strangers. She's a one person dog.

Both Mia and Nikki have been my favorite temperaments in my dogs (though Summer is my heart girl). They both have what can only be described as a bit of an attitude and it is oh so fun to deal with. (Did I just say that out loud?) I really love Mia, she fits to a T though I could use a little more confidence in a dog as Mia is a bit skittish sometimes. Mia is busy, high drive, super smart, sweet to me and her people, aloof with random people, slightly DR but okay to be around other dogs, she's athletic, biddable when you can motivate her but still has enough of that 'i'm gonna flip you off right now' tude to keep things interesting.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:26 PM
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You describe a toller perfectly...

A whippet could work.. but really you described a toller lol.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:27 PM
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If not a Golden , I'd suggest a Sheltie .
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:28 PM
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You describe a toller perfectly...

A whippet could work.. but really you described a toller lol.
Lmao, toller is what I keep coming up with too. I think it may be more of what I want than a bc or aussie. I was just checking with everyone.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:30 PM
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If not a Golden , I'd suggest a Sheltie .
Shelties are pretty small, and not known for their an awesome off switch (bark bark lol) And golden aren't known for their high energy/drive. Both great breeds.. but don't fit the requirements as well as other sport bred dogs.

Grammy.. have you met a toller? They look a bit like a small red golden.. only MUCH higher drive (and loud when excited.. OMG the loud lol)
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:33 PM
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I think my problem is I don't have any real hands on experience with Tollers. Sure, I've seen a few at shows but I've never really known any like I do bcs and aussies.

I've had shelties before and that's an option too, although I don't know if I'm quite ready for another. I'd prefer something a bit bigger too.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:40 PM
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Thats like me and the whippets. We had met some at shows and talked to people but that was it. Any toller breeders in visiting distance? I can tell you if you think you can handle a BC you can handle a toller. Many of the same sort of potential 'issues'.
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I was very interested in Tollers when I first read about them .... after meeting 3 , they are too hyper for me / love their looks though !
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I still say an Aussie would fit in quite well, but yeah, Tollers seem to fit the bill as well. I don't have any hands on experience with a full Toller, but there was a mix that used to go to the dog park and he was a pretty neat guy. Loved the water!
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Tossing my vote in for a working line German shepherd dog, female if possible, small end of the size spectrum. Those suckers can FLY. With the right breeder, you could get everything you have in that list. I know of working line GSDs that live with small breeds like Chinese cresteds.
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