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Old 01-20-2010, 12:20 AM
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Dan, Sorry to burst your bubble but I m not the dog park police. I'm not going to sit here and explain anything to you.

You do not bring your dog to a dog park so why even respond to this thread. You surely have nothing to contribute to it.
Here is some reading for you to do though and maybe you will understand.

http://monmouthcountyparks.com/docum...3/offleach.pdf

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It's pretty nasty to let a dog up on the table where people are eating. It's not cute at all. What about the person who has to use your table after you leave, are you disinfecting it? You want to see discipline around food? Search for the hot dog retrieve trick.
First of all I was the only one at the table. It was a dog related street fair and their was no signs on the table saying no dogs allowed. As for sanitizing tables their were bees around on an off the tables as well. If you keep your food on a paper plate I don't see a problem with a table needing to be sanitized. When you eat out do you ask the waiter if the table was sanitized?

No need to search the hot dog retrieve trick. When I put out treats for Lola she knows not to take any until I tell her to and the one I want her to get at the time.

I'm sure if it were anyone else from this board you probably would not have even responded but since you and me do not seem to agree on things you have to nit pick my posts. Do me a favor and do not respond to my posts anymore. If you really have a problem with what I write here then why don't you send me a PM or tell me to my face.
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Old 01-20-2010, 12:54 AM
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I don't understand people who think that just because there are tables in a dog park, a dog should be allowed on the table. Why? My dogs have no reasons to be on the table and I don't understand why yours does either. It certainly isn't enjoyable to me if I am sitting there watching my dog. And it isn't a practice I would want a dog to do at home.
First of all no one eats at the tables. If Lola is jumping up on the table at the dog park to greet someone who might be walking with a cane or walker I am not going to stop her. She is a therapy dog. If I say down she gets right off but I am not going to tell her to get down when someone is petting her. The people that are usually at the table are older and can't bend over to pet her. For the most part she is out on the grassy area playing with the other dogs and not even near the tables. I surely would never sit at a table and watch her from the tables because our dog park is quite large. She does not get up on the table at home because she knows not to.

When we do our therapy work at nursing homes I hold her up for people to pet her and if they say that they want her on their bed I allow her to lay their with them. Do you think that is wrong also?
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:01 AM
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You sure do act like the dog park police with that laundry list of things you reported. I've been to dog parks. Daisy does very well at them and enjoys it. I take her. I'm knowledgeable enough to participate in this thread, whether you like it or not.

What YOU determine to be ok is certainly not what others might determine to be ok. Personally I find the idea of a dog sitting at a table where people eat disgusting. And while I don't ask my waiter if my table was sanitized prior to me being seated, I expect that proper cleaning procedures were followed, and I observe how tables are cleaned after diners leave.

I will respond to any post that I so desire. I have no need to chat with you via PM, though a face to face chat might be amusing.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:24 AM
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Let me ask you this, did you read the link I provided to see that dogs that are un-neutered are not allowed?

Now let me give you the details of that incident. A guy brought a great dane in that was not neutered. The dog was totally uncontrolable and the guy was trying to call the dog and the dog was not responding to him at all. This dog was running around like a wild horse and was getting all the other dogs upset to the point that a dog fight could have broke out. Being he violated the no intact rule I told a ranger about it and he was asked to leave. His dog did not belong their.

As for the person who brought to many dogs in she had 2 Shar pei with her that were full grown, she had one dog on a leash inside the dog park which was a mixed breed dog, she had a full grown labrador with her and she had a small dog with her. This was all on the 35 pound and under side and the only 2 dogs that were allowed their were the dog that she had on a leash (size wise) but not on a leash and the small dog. All the dogs she had their had no tags as required so their was no way of knowing id they had their rabies shots or not and yes I could have asked her but people do lie and she might not have known because she has a dog sitting service and they were her clients dogs. The dog on a leash that she had inside the park when I asked her why he was on a leash she told me that the dog is not socialized and the vet told her to keep the dog on a leash. Your average vet knows nothing about un-socialized dog training and for those that do would have probably advised her not to bring the dog inside an off leash dog park.

Actually I could care less how many dogs one person brings inside the dog park as long as they are on the appropriate side and their dogs are behaving. When you have this women showing up with 5 dogs and 3 of them are to big for the side she was on and you have people that want to bring their dogs in but are afraid to you report them for doing so. The people that were outside the dog park actually thanked me for having her kicked out. So now you know the details on the two times that I had someone ejected.

FYI places like McDonalds do not clean the tables after each and every customer. FYI a restaurant does not change the linens each end every time the table is used from one customer or group of customers to the next. I suppose your probably a germaphobe who carries hand sanitizer with him where ever he goes.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:29 AM
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It was a dog related street fair and their was no signs on the table saying no dogs allowed.
There's no sign at the grocery store saying please don't **** on the tomatoes either, but that doesn't mean it's okay.

A dog that will jump up on the table on her won free will to greet someone is not my idea of a therapy dog.

And yes you do sound like the dog park police. And I have had limited interaction with you so you can't claim I just hate you.

It is in bad taste to allow your dog on the table, regardless of where it is. How do you know nobody eats at those tables? Do you stand there and make sure of that too?

And yes, when I eat out I expect the tables to be clean.

Little dogs, including YOUR dog, are not exempt form the rules.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:33 AM
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FYI places like McDonalds do not clean the tables after each and every customer. FYI a restaurant does not change the linens each end every time the table is used from one customer or group of customers to the next. I suppose your probably a germaphobe who carries hand sanitizer with him where ever he goes.
uhh, we certainly did when I worked at a McDonalds. Health departments require it. If it's not being done, that's a lot bigger deal than someone missing a pile of dog doo at the park.

And, I don't find the idea of people letting their dogs on tables at fairs and parks so appetizing.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:45 AM
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Your right my dog is not exempt from the rules. Now how do I know no one eats at those tables at the dog park? Simple food is not allowed inside the dog park human or canine. As many times as I have been their I did not see anyone have food their and if they did they are asking for trouble because all the dogs would be their at the tables trying to get the food.

I am not going to argue this anymore. You feel the way you do and I feel the way I do. I'm sure if the people at the dog park were offended by Lola being on the table when someone is petting her they would have said something. Since they do not seem to be offended by Lola being on a table when they are petting her I will allow it to continue. Even the rangers have not said anything about it.

As for her being on the table when I was eating their she is a 10 pound dog, I guess in your opinion it would have been ok to keep her on the ground have a dog walk by larger than her and bite her or cause another problem. The event I was at had at least 1000 dogs their that would be 999 that I did not know personally so I had no idea if they would have been ok with her on the ground or not. It was not a chance I wanted to take.

So what would you have done?
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I would have kept her on the ground between my feet. That's where Gavroche sits/lays when I'm at a dog event and stop to eat. I have had a small dog before, and that's where she would have been, too, had I taken her. Between your feet is a fairly protected area. Other than that you still have to keep an eye out, regardless of what you're doing. Gavroche is larger than Lola, but he could still be injured by another dog. If you can't watch your dog and eat at the same time, either don't eat there, or don't bring your dog.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:56 AM
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I would have kept her on the ground between my feet. That's where Gavroche sits/lays when I'm at a dog event and stop to eat. I have had a small dog before, and that's where she would have been, too, had I taken her. Between your feet is a fairly protected area. Other than that you still have to keep an eye out, regardless of what you're doing. Gavroche is larger than Lola, but he could still be injured by another dog. If you can't watch your dog and eat at the same time, either don't eat there, or don't bring your dog.
This is complete common sense. Nicely put, especially the last line.

BTW Lolas Dad, I did read the file you posted. How can they tell if an intact female is in the park? If that Great Dane had been neutered, and was still out of control, would you have complained to the ranger? Do you complain about every dog that doesn't meet your standard of behavior regardless of size? The intact/neutered rule is not real fair, considering a lot of neutered dogs are poorly trained and ill behaved, and a lot of intact dogs are good citizens. They should go by the dog, not by the status of his nuts.

I couldn't tell you the last time I ate at a McD's, so what their sanitation practices are doesn't affect me. I presume they do not allow dogs to sit on their tables. Sanitizing the table after Lola was sitting there is only common courtesy. Just as wiping up your crumbs or anything from your meal is courteous if there isn't someone there whose job it is to make sure the tables are clean, like at a park picnic table.
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