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Old 01-15-2010, 08:15 AM
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How would you get a dog to stop barking while in his crate?
I have a basset Hound that is of a more nervous disposition and when I get home from work he is just barking non-stop. He does not hate his crate, it seems more like he is too emotional at the moment.
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:44 AM
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We have problems like that with Abby. I don't see any real solution to it.

Abby is on doggy prozac, but I often come home to her literally howling. She barks so much that she actually moves her crate from the living room into the kitchen (we have hardwood floors).

We tried that phermone stuff, which I also suggest for you, but that didn't do a single thing except waste our money.

You might want to either try to come home at lunch (which we do), or hire a bonded dog walker to come in and take care of her.

Then, there is always the bark collar... either electric shock or citronella... I think this is kind of cruel, but the option is there.

So...anyway sorry I'm not much help. We haven't been able to solve it either.

I'm just worried that Harper is going to pick up Crazy-Abby's habbits and that instead of one neurotic dog on my hands, I'll have two!

*sigh* Sometimes I honestly think that Abby should be rehomed to a quiet retired couple who is home all the time and who just want an easy dog who requires very little maintenance.

BUUUUTTt the BF won't have it. He loves her and says, "Well, she's happy when we're home!" And it's like, Yeah, but she spends 8 hours a day barking and howling...

Good luck. I hope you're more sucessful then what we were. If you do happen to find something that works, let me know please.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:55 PM
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Please do not use bark or citronella collar or anything like it is only going to make the situation worse.
I rescued a dog last year that got totally neurotic and fearful because of a bark collar.

If he is barking when you come home only he is just too exited to see you. I would suggest to totally ignore him for a bit and pay attention when he stops barking only.
Now here is the trick. How long is he in his crate? All day? So he might need to pee really bad. How old is he?
I have other suggestions but would need your help to answer the other questions to help out. So let me know I will check back.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:06 PM
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I don't think that's true, Catherine.

I think certain dogs respond to certain things, and not to others. Maybe your rescue didn't do well on a bark collar, but maybe their dog would.

Yes, it is adversive, but the citronella collar is much safer then the bark collar.

Just playing devil's Advocate!
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Old 01-15-2010, 05:15 PM
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I would not advise using the citronella collar (or ever use a shock collar for any reason) for that type of barking. It is very useful for nuisance barking but not anxiety barking. And to me this sounds like anxiety barking.

Do you know if he is barking while you are gone? Or does he bark when you leave and stop? Then when he hears you enter the driveway or come up the sidewalk (however you get home) start barking then?

ETA: Also the collars can malfunction and continue spraying citronella for example. so I imagine it a shock collar could malfunction and could continue shocking. That would be highly distressful for the pupsters. I would never use it unless I was actually home.
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Old 01-15-2010, 05:50 PM
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You could try setting up a Manners Minder, which is a remote-controlled treat dispenser. You can set it on top of her crate (wire crate), and just "click" the instant she stops barking. With this your timing is just as good as with a clicker, and you don't have to be in the room to give the treat. The remote works from a good distance, too, so you can have it with you before you even walk in the house and maybe start clicking her before she really gets too worked up.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:27 AM
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I wouldn't use a correction collar when you are gone.

If he is barking because he is happy to see you, then you don't have a large problem. Some dogs are barky, barking and howling three times when one will do. Consider the breed of your dog. When you come home, will he stop barking when you speak to him? If he is otherwise well behaved and you don't think there are dominance problems, then try teaching him "speak" and "hush". You use treats to reward speak. Once he's trained, tell him speak, then "hush". When you say "hush", you put a chewy treat to his nose. He has to stop barking to sniff. Let him sniff the treat for a couple of seconds, "good dog", then give it to him. Work with him until he can stop barking for ten seconds before giving him a treat. If he is clicker trained, use the clicker.

When he's solid on this you can take it on the road. Bring him to every room of the house playing the speak/hush game, and especially in his crate. Put him in the crate, go outside for a few minutes and come back in. Presumably, he will bark. You tell him "Rover, hush". Then rush to his crate to treat and praise. Repeat several times, making him wait just one second longer. He knows a treat is on it's way for the "hush" trick.

When you come home, he barks, you tell him to hush, hang up your coat and go to the crate to praise and treat. You are training him to acknowledge your presence then shut up.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:36 AM
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Please do not use bark or citronella collar or anything like it is only going to make the situation worse.
I rescued a dog last year that got totally neurotic and fearful because of a bark collar.

If he is barking when you come home only he is just too exited to see you. I would suggest to totally ignore him for a bit and pay attention when he stops barking only.
Now here is the trick. How long is he in his crate? All day? So he might need to pee really bad. How old is he?
I have other suggestions but would need your help to answer the other questions to help out. So let me know I will check back.
He is 3 years old. Sometimes he is crated, other times not. I rotate them as I am fostering a dog that does not seem to like him very much. So one day he is crated and the next he is not.
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Old 01-18-2010, 09:37 AM
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I wouldn't use a correction collar when you are gone.

If he is barking because he is happy to see you, then you don't have a large problem. Some dogs are barky, barking and howling three times when one will do. Consider the breed of your dog. When you come home, will he stop barking when you speak to him? If he is otherwise well behaved and you don't think there are dominance problems, then try teaching him "speak" and "hush". You use treats to reward speak. Once he's trained, tell him speak, then "hush". When you say "hush", you put a chewy treat to his nose. He has to stop barking to sniff. Let him sniff the treat for a couple of seconds, "good dog", then give it to him. Work with him until he can stop barking for ten seconds before giving him a treat. If he is clicker trained, use the clicker.

When he's solid on this you can take it on the road. Bring him to every room of the house playing the speak/hush game, and especially in his crate. Put him in the crate, go outside for a few minutes and come back in. Presumably, he will bark. You tell him "Rover, hush". Then rush to his crate to treat and praise. Repeat several times, making him wait just one second longer. He knows a treat is on it's way for the "hush" trick.

When you come home, he barks, you tell him to hush, hang up your coat and go to the crate to praise and treat. You are training him to acknowledge your presence then shut up.
That sounds like a wonderful training method. I will try that. Thank you.
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:09 AM
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Victor was a horrible barker when he came. Intense, loud, demanding, over the top excited. We played a lot of quiet games. I would hold whatever he wanted until he stopped then give it to him or take him, or pay attention to him. Soon as he shut up he got what he wanted. THen we played the quiet please bark...to teach him some control over his volume. IT took awhile but it was worth it. BArking makes me nuts.
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