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Old 09-05-2005, 03:44 PM
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Question Please help!!!...to tie or not to tie?!?!

My chi, who i thought was outta heat, apparently wasnt...we took our pups to go visit my inlaws and their male chi was veryyy interested in her. He attempted to "hump" her several times, and she would allow it. We know he did ejaculate but there was no tie...My concern is that it has been now 3 weeks since and shes got some changes to her mammory glands...they are swollen , bout the size of a dime surrounding it. I was only one swollen but now they are all following suit...Shes begun eatting more, and peeing more...I guess my biggest question is Can a dog get pregnant without a tie?!!?!?! Ive been looking online for pregnancy answers but they are all pretty basic. If anyone can help me Id really appreciate it
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Old 09-05-2005, 03:48 PM
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I doubt that a pregnancy occured with them not tying. Maybe Grammy can chime in here...
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:41 PM
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I've always heard that dogs can become pregnant without becoming "tied," though they usually do.

A couple of sites that discuss it:
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Con...=1&SourceID=47
http://www.answerbag.com/c_view.php/2381
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Old 09-05-2005, 06:01 PM
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I've never had that experience... at how many days did this happen ??? I know humans can become pregnant without penitration .... did the male penitrate ??? If not, I doubt if she got pregnant. With her accepting him , there could be a question !
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Old 09-06-2005, 10:08 AM
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well after spending countless hours trying to find information on this online last nite i took my girl to the vet this morning. By what her teets are doing etc, he feels that shes likely pregnant. I explained that I never seen them tie, but he said a male dog rarely misses, and a tie just pretty much guarantees pregnancy in healthy dogs, both stud an the female. I guess time will only tell now..in about 3 more weeks we should see a big size difference. Shes already gained some weight, lazying around, and eatting constantly. but we'll see...thanks for the input tho, i was starting to stress...
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:56 AM
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I sure hope she isn't .
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P.S. How old is she ?? I hope the male wasn't related to her.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:15 PM
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She could very well be having a false pregnancy too. Their bodies go through all the changes but they are not actually pregnant. I would consider having a pregnancy ultrasound done immediatley. You need to know what you are dealing with for sure. Chis in general can have very complicated deliveries and may need some special assistance or a c-section. It's best to know if she is or isn't so you can prepare a whelping box, get her on the best quality food possible and read up on whelping a litter - they don't do it on their own!!! Keep us posted.
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Old 09-09-2005, 08:10 AM
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both our chis are and have been on great food, from our vet....No, the male was in no way related shes a year and a half, we originally wanted to wait till her next heat tho to even attempt to breed her however that may not be happening. Ive done so much reading on whelping etc, been talking to the breeder I purchased her from and feel very comfortable regardless of the outcome. I do still hope its a false preg. as i said before i really want to wait a bit longer. Ive hand raised orphaned puppies before , and aided in nursing sick ones etc, so that part doesnt scare me, im prepared to do anything nessesary to help my Chi and her lil ones, My biggest concern is that if she has a litter that its smooth for her sake, shes my baby first and her health is very important to me!! Thank all of you for your imput, and the links I always welcome more information
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:19 PM
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Sounds like you really love your dog and have looked into breeding prior to this, so it's good that you have some knowledge on the subject. Good luck with her.

On a side note, what food do you get from your vet? The reason I ask is because the majority of vets push really crappy quality food like Science Diet. A lot of people believe that if a vet recommends it than it must be good right? - WRONG. Most vets have no nutritonal training at all and they just sell whatever food company gives them the best deal. Trust me, I worked for a vet for 5 years and was in charge of food inventory, sales and profit. It wasn't pretty.
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