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Old 11-16-2009, 03:26 PM
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You don't have to do herding, I was just posting an option you perhaps hadn't thought of. The texas Sheepdog Association though would probably be your best bet in finding an instructor if you decide to try it again. Who knows, there may be more instructors that the people you asked didn't know of. Also, they have a list of trials around texas. I've been to a couple and they were really great experiences.

Anyways here's the link if you want to check it out: Texas Sheep Dog Association Home Page

If you would prefer agility, then do that. Jax won't care what activity you do with him. Agility is what I enjoy, so that's what I've done. I miss training and wish I didn't live in the middle of nowhere!
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Old 11-16-2009, 03:53 PM
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Thank Laurelin, I'll look at that. I live in the middle of everywhere.

We do have some things coming up early next year to go check out. Dallas/Ftworth has a lot of dogs and probably even more "trainers" than pooches.

The best agility trainer in Dallas seems to have a long waiting list. On top of that she picks ONLY the dogs "she" wants to work with. It's far from easy getting into her class and Jax needs work before he will even be considered. Honestly, I think Jax needs Rally first before Agility but that's way off topic for this thread.

Herding is awesome, no question and has to be a very fun and rewarding thing to do with your dog. I'm just not sure if that a direction I want to take yet for any amount of time. I'm still exploring all the things to do with Jax, much less Peyton. Truth be told, Peyton is a much "better" dog than Jax in many respects. I talk about Jax here more than her, but Peyton really is the star of the show.

LOL, I don't even know what to do with one dog, much less two.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:17 PM
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There is nothing saying you can't train two dogs in agility at the same time. Or rally if that's what you want to do. Every sport is different. If you like running, agility might be for you. If you prefer more structure, rally or obedience might be for you. You might try obedience classes, to get a feel for what rally/obedience is like. I know I enjoyed the training classes I took with my older female.

Agility doesn't interest me that much, but it's something that I can train for everyday so we do it and Blaze enjoys it alot. Where as doing herding is only about every other weekend - both days of the weekend if I'm lucky.
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:35 PM
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Well, Liz that would be a good goal if I could get both dogs on the same learning curve.

Peyton is still highly dog reactive (playmode) and in spite of everything I've tried so far, I have not been able to correct it. Jax is not dog reactive much at all.

Jax still lacks anything I would call real focus, here is Peyton's focus which you might have seen. YouTube - Peyton & focus

They are really two different dogs in temperament and ability at least at this point which compounds my confusion about what to do with both dogs at the same time.
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DR shouldn't really put a hamper on agility training. I know I as well as several other members have done agility training with DR dogs. They don't have to do the same thing do they? They may have different strengths and might benefit from different kinds of training.
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DR shouldn't really put a hamper on agility training.
DR puts a damper on everything we do. Peyton is not controllable around other dogs. Her switch is flipped and not even a raw piece of steak will redirect.

It''s really the ONLY thing holding her back from really good things. She learns things in seconds.

Let me give you an example. I take them both to the DP often, 3 sometimes 4 times a week. Last week we took another route to the DP, when we go within several blocks I heard in the back seat go gaga. She knew we were close somehow even though she had never seen that street before. Most people have issues when dogs see another dog, in my case my DR problem starts before she see a dog and I can't trick her by going another way. She does not do that if we're just going out or to Moms something. She has GPS DR.
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DR puts a damper on everything we do. Peyton is not controllable around other dogs. Her switch is flipped and not even a raw piece of steak will redirect.
Forgive me, I forget and you post a lot of threads so I lose track on what is what.

Have you gotten the Control Unleashed book yet? It will help IMMENSELY with Peyton's focus if you work through the exercises slowly, building up threshold levels. Work on the focus games with no distractions, then on walks as people walk by, then meeting dogs one on one. You can keep building up threshold as she "gets it" at the previous level.

It takes a lot of time. Finnegan and I are still working on it around groups of dogs, but he can divert attention to me easily now on a walk when we go past people and dogs. This is several months of straight CU work.

If you haven't gotten it yet... best 20 bucks you will ever spend. Better yet, see if there is a CU class near you, seeing as the creator of Control Unleashed lives in Houston, IIRC.
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Better yet, see if there is a CU class near you, seeing as the creator of Control Unleashed lives in Houston, IIRC.
Yes, I have CU, I read the first half and she lost me. If I could take a CU class, that would be the next thing to do for sure.

On the herding, I just got off the phone with one of the trainers who referred me to this sheep lady. After she watched the video, she said she would not be referring anyone else.
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Yes, I have CU, I read the first half and she lost me. If I could take a CU class, that would be the next thing to do for sure.
On what aspect did she lose you?

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On the herding, I just got off the phone with one of the trainers who referred me to this sheep lady. After she watched the video, she said she would not be referring anyone else.
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Yes, I have CU, I read the first half and she lost me. If I could take a CU class, that would be the next thing to do for sure.

On the herding, I just got off the phone with one of the trainers who referred me to this sheep lady. After she watched the video, she said she would not be referring anyone else.
Doing some Googling, I see that Leslie McDevitt Often speaks in Dallas. There's also a Control Unleashed DVD that might help you understand the book better. What parts aren't you understanding?
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