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Old 11-10-2009, 11:24 AM
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LOL Acooper. Well, let's see. Maybe this person specially trains these puppies to stalk an intruder. She gets random people to help her and they drop treats as they walk through the house. So, the puppies learn to follow people and since these puppies must look very scary, that stalking behavior just clinches the deal.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:09 PM
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That was not a spouse, I can almost guarantee it. I *am* a spouse, and I think it's sick to even mention it in an ad. My husband has been gone 3 out of the last 5 years on deployments...if I were not a strong, independent, INTELLIGENT person I's be all over those pups paying whatever they were asking. And for what? A mixed breed dog that could have been saved from a pound that I probably paid $$$ for and could very likely end up at the pound anyway. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. It's ridiculous to make such a claim and it's wrong to play on those in the military. I see nothing "cute" about it.

As far as flagging goes, you want to sell your BYB pups? Take an ad out in the paper or on Kijiji or post flyers. CL is not the place...the amount of BYB breeders selling of CL is sickening.
im sorry but I dont think it takes any special intelligence to know that this was some kind of "joke" that the person thought was funny... I dont think you need to be of high intelligence to know that dogs are not specially trained for something like this.

The person is obviously in the military or associated with the military in some fashion (ie: "leave message during duty hours") they obviously didnt mean to offend military people... it appears lighthearted.

And when you go flagging every person with a pet on CL how do you determine which person is a BYB and which is honestly trying to home and oops litter or a dog in need of a home?

Since you have so much free time on your hands why not go out and do something productive to help animals?
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:11 PM
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I find that a bit condescending, as if you believe since you train with your dog for such work you have the market cornered on a dog that WILL protect when needed.

I can agree that nobody knows if their dog will protect until a REAL situation appears.........and yes, that includes dogs who train for the job.

I have a 75lb doberman, I have NO IDEA if he would protect me if needed.......I like to think he would, but we've never really been in the position.

On the other hand, we also have a 38lb border mix that has PROVEN she will. Laid back, no protection training, and friendly as they come to EVERYONE she meets.........but she HAS put herself between me and danger and lunged for the bite. I never even DREAMED she would be a protector. Go figure huh?



Gotta say I am agreeing with mommakatx on that one. It is a ridiculous claim for ANYONE to make when trying to rehome, sell, or give away PUPPIES.

If they had said "potential ability" based on parents? I might have bought that one. Not pups already "SPECIALLY TRAINED" <-----exact words used> and now they are being REHOMED on craig's list? Who puts that kind of time and training into a PUPPY to rehome on CL? Nope..........don't buy it at all.
I hardly believe I have the market cornered on this training. There are others here who are far more experienced than I am.

I wasn't trying to be condescending. The "my dog will protect me" threads come up once in a while and half the time it's people who have a dog that one punt across the room would send the dog packing are the ones who seem to insist their dog would do it. Simply because the dog has barked or shown teeth at the mailman or some drunk on a walk doesn't mean anything. Some delusional poster on craigslist makes a similar claim and everyone pans it right away. Because it makes sense- you can't train a puppy for that. It should make sense that 9 out of 10 dogs here have the same ability as these pups but when someone posts that their poodle/lhasa mix chased away a drunk everyone talks about how protective the dog was and kudos this and congrats that.

you are right, you'll never know about your dog until it's faced with that situation. Even your dog that did put himself between you and a threat might run away if the threat came right at him and got physical with him. The fact is, most of the general public doesn't know what a dog is capable of, and having a dog like your Dobe is enough of a threat that most people with ill intent are not going to bother you. The training I do with my dog doesn't guarantee he'll protect me when the time comes, but I at least have an understanding of what he's capable of and he has an understanding of how it works because he's seen it. He's had decoys hitting him and getting in his face so in a real life situation he's more apt to remain calm and not be scared. It's like boxing or martial arts- you spar, you train, you build confidence, but you don't do any real fighting until you have to.
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:16 PM
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And when you go flagging every person with a pet on CL how do you determine which person is a BYB and which is honestly trying to home and oops litter or a dog in need of a home?

Since you have so much free time on your hands why not go out and do something productive to help animals?

^^^agreed
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:49 PM
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What I don't understand about people flagging every little thing you don't agree with, is what do you think is going to happen to these puppies now?

They tried finding HOMES for them and you're trying to take that opportunity away from them, so what happens then? Have you thought about it.

The puppies go to a shelter, get dumped somewhere, all much worse fates than a craigslist ad that isn't to your liking.

Perhaps if you aren't looking for something on the cg pets section and it upsets you so much you should just stay off of it.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:18 PM
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What I don't understand about people flagging every little thing you don't agree with, is what do you think is going to happen to these puppies now?

They tried finding HOMES for them and you're trying to take that opportunity away from them, so what happens then? Have you thought about it.

The puppies go to a shelter, get dumped somewhere, all much worse fates than a craigslist ad that isn't to your liking.

Perhaps if you aren't looking for something on the cg pets section and it upsets you so much you should just stay off of it.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:24 PM
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I didn't address my feelings on flagging! <biggest point of the thread>

NO, I do not agree with all the flagging for meaningless BS. The people who are TRYING to rehome their pets are at least trying. For whatever reason, the owners have to give it up and are at least attempting to find a decent home.

I DO have a problem with folks trying to "rehome" all these PUPPIES (as in litters of pups) constantly. Sorry, if you are "rehoming" these pups, then show me your expenses where you NEED $250.00 for costs. Most of these pups with price tags haven't even seen the inside of a vet office............they've been alive for 5-6 weeks so I know they haven't eaten $250.00 worth of puppy chow. Why the large "rehoming fee" ?? BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN IT'S PUPPIES (a litter) ON CRAIG'S LIST............IT'S A BYB SELLING.

CL is FREE........the BYB doesn't even need to pay for an ad in the paper, how convenient! Just my opinion of course
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:24 PM
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Boxer Mix puppies Fawn, Brindle, Dark Fawn and White to good home.

Please come by and visit with the little guys, they love kids.

These little guys are specially trained to watch over military spouse while active duty deployed.
When I go back over this ad, I think this is a woman whose husband is away. And it does sound like she's being cute and saying these little guys will watch over you when your spouse is away. They're a great comfort and ready to defend. Haha. Just a joke to make the ad more interesting.

2nd. There is no mention of money. It looks like she is looking for a good home and that they love kids.

CL is a far reaching venue and I worry now, with this flagging that these puppies might not find homes. I would hope she wouldn't dump them on the side of a road. It sounds like she's enthralled with them....they love her kids, "these little guys".....but she may be forced to hang onto them until they're no longer as appealing because they're older and/or she may be forced to take them to a shelter. And who knows if they'll find a home then? Puppies and kittens are so much more adoptable and appealing to most people when they're young still. I hope she can re-word the ad and try again.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:26 PM
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I didn't address my feelings on flagging! <biggest point of the thread>

NO, I do not agree with all the flagging for meaningless BS. The people who are TRYING to rehome their pets are at least trying. For whatever reason, the owners have to give it up and are at least attempting to find a decent home.

I DO have a problem with folks trying to "rehome" all these PUPPIES constantly. Sorry, if you are "rehoming" these pups, then show me your expenses where you NEED $250.00 for costs. Most of these pups with price tags haven't even seen the inside of a vet office............they've been alive for 5-6 weeks so I know they haven't eaten $250.00 worth of puppy chow. Why the large "rehoming fee" ?? BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN IT'S PUPPIES (a litter) ON CRAIG'S LIST............IT'S A BYB SELLING.

CL is FREE........the BYB doesn't even need to pay for an ad in the paper, how convenient! Just my opinion of course

I agree with you Acooper. Huge "re-homing" or "adoption" fees are nothing more than trying to make a profit. And I totally disagree with that or repeat breedings. That goes back to what we've always talked about with respect to byb and puppy mills. I hope that isn't the case with this person. But it could be. It's hard to tell from that ad.
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:29 PM
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I didn't address my feelings on flagging! <biggest point of the thread>

NO, I do not agree with all the flagging for meaningless BS. The people who are TRYING to rehome their pets are at least trying. For whatever reason, the owners have to give it up and are at least attempting to find a decent home.

I DO have a problem with folks trying to "rehome" all these PUPPIES (as in litters of pups) constantly. Sorry, if you are "rehoming" these pups, then show me your expenses where you NEED $250.00 for costs. Most of these pups with price tags haven't even seen the inside of a vet office............they've been alive for 5-6 weeks so I know they haven't eaten $250.00 worth of puppy chow. Why the large "rehoming fee" ?? BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN IT'S PUPPIES (a litter) ON CRAIG'S LIST............IT'S A BYB SELLING.

CL is FREE........the BYB doesn't even need to pay for an ad in the paper, how convenient! Just my opinion of course

Charging a reasonable fee can separate the people who actually serious about getting a dog and those who turn around and sell dogs to research labs or use the dogs for illegal purposes, etc. If you can't afford an amount like $250.00, for example, then maybe getting a dog is not a good idea.
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