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Old 11-07-2009, 10:37 AM
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So I didn't want to totally highjack the other thread on this note. But I have to say that I think this raising girls as princesses is crap. They grow up watching movies with "princesses" that get everything handed to them. They have servants, etc. This is just adding to the "me generation" that is seeming to get worse and worse every year.

If I ever have a daughter I want her to grow up to be a strong, respectful, independent woman. Not a princess that relies on everyone else around her to do everything for her. I also don't want her to feel she is above everyone else and she is so perfect she doesn't make mistakes.

Guys can get treated just as crappy as women can. And I have seen good guys with these "princess" women who think they can just use these guys to get what they want.

Girls and boys need to be raised in the real world, not the fairy tale land of princes and princesses.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:40 AM
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:45 AM
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I think it evens out well. I was daddys princess, always lol he would call me princess. He would tell me that I was a princess and that no boy was good enough until he treated me as such. he didn't mean like the material things, he meant with respect and kindness.. A boy who didn't open the car door for me wasn't allowed to take me out on a date, for example lol

my mom was the one who got to bring it back down to reality, so to speak lol she taught me independence etc.. she HATED that my dad called me princess lol drove her nuts

I was pretty spoiled, or rather, well taken care of. I was never a brat though and I always appreciated the gifts my parents gave me, never demanded them.

As for my boyfriends.. Ive never been high maintenance. I do demand a certain amount of attention.. opening doors, and being respectful and stuff like that. but never material things, I always feel awkward when people who aren't my parents give me gifts...

I dont think being a princess is about servants or getting everything you want. Its about being treated with respect, kindness, knowing selfworth, feeling special. well, thats how it was in my case anyway.
I like to think that every girl deserves to be daddys princess
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They grow up watching movies with "princesses" that get everything handed to them. They have servants, etc. This is just adding to the "me generation" that is seeming to get worse and worse every year.
If watching "movies" "tv" whatever, has THAT much impact on a kid, then something is wrong beyond that...
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Fransheska, you're a rare young woman. You and Laurelin share many qualities and it's wonderful that the two of you grew up with fathers like yours. Many don't, but far too many of the ones who do twist it into an attitude of entitlement.

We forget that men can be deeply wounded, too, and they don't usually have the same kind of ability to recover that most women have.
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If watching "movies" "tv" whatever, has THAT much impact on a kid, then something is wrong beyond that...



we owned the entire collection of disney movies & watched them religiously...

Ask anyone who knows me if they think I grew up in a fairy tale land...haha
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we owned the entire collection of disney movies & watched them religiously...
Yeah, I did too, until my Dad would holler at me to go outside and do manual labor with him lol.

I have never been called a princess or treated like one. The only pet name I was called as a kid was "hellcat."
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So I didn't want to totally highjack the other thread on this note. But I have to say that I think this raising girls as princesses is crap. They grow up watching movies with "princesses" that get everything handed to them. They have servants, etc. This is just adding to the "me generation" that is seeming to get worse and worse every year.

If I ever have a daughter I want her to grow up to be a strong, respectful, independent woman. Not a princess that relies on everyone else around her to do everything for her. I also don't want her to feel she is above everyone else and she is so perfect she doesn't make mistakes.

Guys can get treated just as crappy as women can. And I have seen good guys with these "princess" women who think they can just use these guys to get what they want.

Girls and boys need to be raised in the real world, not the fairy tale land of princes and princesses.


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Girls and boys need to be raised in the real world, not the fairy tale land of princes and princesses.
Part of the fun of childhood, IMHO, is an active imagination. I LOVED Disney movies, had fairy tales read to me, had a collection of plastic model horses and stuffed animals that had frequent and detailed adventures, and enjoyed believing in Santa. To me, discouraging imagination activities in children is paramount to stealing something from them and they are actually finding that it can hinder brain development.

Teaching kids that they are people deserving of respect is different than spoiling them. In case the word "princess" is what you are getting hung up on, I don't know any spoiled person who was raised as a "princess" or "prince"--they were just raised to be spoiled brats. And personally, I like to have doors opened up for me, etc.
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Part of the fun of childhood, IMHO, is an active imagination. I LOVED Disney movies, had fairy tales read to me, had a collection of plastic model horses and stuffed animals that had frequent and detailed adventures, and enjoyed believing in Santa. To me, discouraging imagination activities in children is paramount to stealing something from them and they are actually finding that it can hinder brain development.

Teaching kids that they are people deserving of respect is different than spoiling them. In case the word "princess" is what you are getting hung up on, I don't know any spoiled person who was raised as a "princess" or "prince"--they were just raised to be spoiled brats. And personally, I like to have doors opened up for me, etc.
I agree!

Kevin opens my doors, yes, even the car door after nearly 11 years of marriage, LOL.........on the off chance he doesn't, it sort of zings my "female sensibilities" LOL Let me tell you that his male friends AND my male friends teased him for opening doors and such when we were dating. On the other side of the coin, all his female friends AND mine were jealous and would elbow their own men for NOT doing the same

As to the word "princess" that pops was using, I think he just meant it as a girl/woman thinking SHE SHOULD have respect, DESERVES it, and should EXPECT it and be treated accordingly. And yes, that goes just as well for boys/men.
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