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Old 10-14-2009, 09:51 AM
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With dog poop, a bag in one hand, and the poop usually fits in one hand, and you can carry a bag with you until you get to a trash can. A horse, not so much. You can get off and kick it to the side, but getting off and on and off and on a horse isn't always so easy. If you have a nervous or spooky horse it can be a challange to get back on. Also if you are like me, and your SMALLEST horse stands 17.2hh, you have to have a step stool to mount, you won't be able to get back on. The best bet is to use a diaper(which may take some training, depending on your horse), or just don't ride anywhere where anything other than horses are allowed. Horse poop really isn't so bad. Its just grass, hay grain. Once dry, you can pick up pieces and throw it at someone.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:05 AM
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See this is where i have issues. Why not learn to deal? For example I have had loose dogs and even leashed dogs harrass my horses. Your dog rolls in poop its icky. Your dog spooks my horse and we go crashing through trees, or horse rears and goes over I can die. Dirt bikers are usually decent but I have had some that wizz right up behind my horse and pass with in inches. Not only is that dangerous for the rider, its dangerous for them. Hikers are usually no problem. (unless they are a hoard of children who then try to swarm the horse.. but that has only happened once)

Horse poop isn't 'icky' it doesn't stick to things the way dog poop does, it isn't 'squishy' so you can't loose a shoe in it, it doesn't carry the same bacteria.

Horses were here first as well. How about you stay off trails if you can't train your dog to stay out of the road apples? (the old train don't complain motto) No one is making you use those trails. You want to stop people from using the trails all together (the riders) because you can't walk around some horse poo. Its simple and hygenic to pick up after a dog, its not simple and creates no hygene problem for horses.

The reason it is responsible to pick up dog poo is because it is a hygiene problem.


Exactly. Ranger ended up do spooked of small dogs for a LONG time because I took him on a training excercise on a trail. To many little dog owners thought it was cool to let their dogs off leash that would then come terrorize me and my horse. HECK one even bit ranger. So I geuss I should have written to the gvt to ban small dogs. (im not the only one that had that issue) Luckily ranger had been around big dogs his entire life but I almost got thrown a few times because of other peoples dogs. One in particular was a lab that someone had offleash who thought CHASING my horse and I was funny and at this time it was DANGEROUS for my horse to run, but I couldnt do anything about the owner because they were allowed on the trail. Ranger did end up kicking the dog finally though.

And dobe I trained him to the diapers but you know what WHENEVER I put one on him he froze and would NOT move until it came off. He didnt mind it when he was walking in the paddock or with me on him in the paddock but outside of there NOOOO way!! And at that time he needed to be on the trail because that was the only way he could get his excersice (he fractured his cannon bone and could only walk on the sandy trails. He also had to be ridden at least 5 miles there and back to get in his excersice. I love how people are complaining about something that is sooo big you cant miss it. What about us on horses who have to look out for your dog poop?? Ranger almost slipped once on what had to be a mastiff/great dane sized pile and I almost fell off which in esscence could have KILLED me.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:22 AM
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Exactly. Ranger ended up do spooked of small dogs for a LONG time because I took him on a training excercise on a trail. To many little dog owners thought it was cool to let their dogs off leash that would then come terrorize me and my horse. HECK one even bit ranger. So I geuss I should have written to the gvt to ban small dogs. (im not the only one that had that issue) Luckily ranger had been around big dogs his entire life but I almost got thrown a few times because of other peoples dogs. One in particular was a lab that someone had offleash who thought CHASING my horse and I was funny and at this time it was DANGEROUS for my horse to run, but I couldnt do anything about the owner because they were allowed on the trail. Ranger did end up kicking the dog finally though.

And dobe I trained him to the diapers but you know what WHENEVER I put one on him he froze and would NOT move until it came off. He didnt mind it when he was walking in the paddock or with me on him in the paddock but outside of there NOOOO way!! And at that time he needed to be on the trail because that was the only way he could get his excersice (he fractured his cannon bone and could only walk on the sandy trails. He also had to be ridden at least 5 miles there and back to get in his excersice. I love how people are complaining about something that is sooo big you cant miss it. What about us on horses who have to look out for your dog poop?? Ranger almost slipped once on what had to be a mastiff/great dane sized pile and I almost fell off which in esscence could have KILLED me.
It dosn't sound like he was fully trained to it, otherwise he would have rode on a trail with it as well as in the paddock. Never had a horse to slip on dog poop regardless of the size of pile. I can much better see the dog owners and bicycles having some issues with horse pile on the trail, not the other way around.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:26 AM
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When your horse just got the clear to excercise because of a cannon bone injury thingsare different hes the only one who did that and it was the second ride after I got the all clear after his injury and it was the injured leg so he was already having issues. And yes he was ALL my other horses could wear them and were trained the same way but he got scared of it in strange surroundings. I have trained at least 20+ horses to take the bags and diapers I do know what Im doing with it.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:34 AM
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When your horse just got the clear to excercise because of a cannon bone injury thingsare different hes the only one who did that and it was the second ride after I got the all clear after his injury and it was the injured leg so he was already having issues. And yes he was ALL my other horses could wear them and were trained the same way but he got scared of it in strange surroundings. I have trained at least 20+ horses to take the bags and diapers I do know what Im doing with it.
Thats exactly what I'm meaning- He hadn't had enough time to be fully trained to it. If he had, injury or not he wouldn't have been afraid of it. Strange surroundings didn't cause it. If he was in strange surroundings, it was likely the strange surroundings that caused some fear.
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Actually we worked on him for 3 years with it.
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Actually we worked on him for 3 years with it.
And you STILL couldn't get him to accept it?
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Nope he was a moody and weird Anglo-Arab Stallion. That is also the only time I called a professional trainer in as well. All my horses were trained by me adn my father.
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IF you step in horse manure it will most likely be gone by the time you get to your car. IF you step in dog crap you will know it and if you get it in your car you will be sorry. I dont' know but the latter is far worse than the former. I run across horse manure all the time in the woods and paths that we frequent, it really doesn't bother me at all..and the dogs certainly could care less. IF i was a horse I wouldn't want a bag stuck to my butt.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:57 AM
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Nope he was a moody and weird Anglo-Arab Stallion. That is also the only time I called a professional trainer in as well. All my horses were trained by me adn my father.
An Arab and a stallion too.. bad combination. I would have gelded him if he was like that. We bought one of our Belgians as a stud who at 14 years old had been used only for breeding. Never any form of gear on him. He was also never taught any form of respect, so considering his size(18.1hh 2012lbs) We had him gelded right off the bat. It was like a light switch. Once we got ground work done and started him under saddle, then it was about sixty days in the arena and then he took his first trail ride....like a pro! I wouldn't keep one stud, much less an Arab.
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